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The one illogical part I just couldn't forgive the movie makers for...


Of course this movie is full of illogical plot holes, geographical mistakes and slow moments but for the sake of trying to enjoy a mediocore movie for a couple hours, I let them slide, until the part in the movie when after the monster attack in the jungle and Kaulder is searching the area for supplies, he recovers his camera, a couple of gas masks etc. But right in the back of the white pick up truck is a dead dude with an assault rifle. The idea that someone in the jam they are in, with monsters all around, and most likely banditos around every corner, would pass up the chance to arm themselves took me completely out of the viewing experience,

I watched the rest of the movie pissed off at anyone involved in this movie, and what could have been a decent ending was ruined for me. It had to be a deliberate decision by the director and writer to not have him arm himself, and that pissed me off even more. Because, regardless of their comfort level with firearms, moments after an alien monster attack, anyone with a brain is picking up that rifle and all the ammo they can find, plain and simple. Anyone who says they wouldn't is either crazy or is ok being perpetual victim, which is still crazy in my book.

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Your reaction tells lots about you. You're just like the actual monsters of this movie, humans with their armed forces. And you missed the point of how the creatures ignore you if you don't attack them. Also, not everyone likes guns, want to use them, or be near them.

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This is a perfect reply! Even if he did take it, what's he going to do? Aggravate it then try and take it down by himself?

Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.

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Of course it says alot about me, I refuse to be a sheep, surrounded by wolves

And I'm not really talking about the character arming himself against the monsters, its pretty clear small arms are usless against them, but it is obvious that human predators are all around, and anyone who passes up the opportunity to arm themselves and protect those their with is, as I said, crazy.

In this setting, it is irrelevant if you don't want to be around guns, because they will be all around you, in the hands of banditos, and if your lucky, armed forces may be nearby to aid you. But in a breakdown of society such as this, you can only count on yourself and your loved ones for protection.

I see it as an obligation, to take whatever steps neccesary to protect them, including things I might not like or are comfortable with.

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The idea that someone in the jam they are in, with monsters all around, and most likely banditos around every corner, would pass up the chance to arm themselves took me completely out of the viewing experience


You make a good point, especially about the banditos part. That said, I truly believe a naive city-boy like him wouldn't even realize this danger to himself and thus behave exactly as he did, ignore his own safety.

To play devil's advocate, however, it could be argued we are interpreting this scene too narrowly, etc, and that perhaps he realized the futility of such an act, the guy's actually dead because that gun didn't help him, not only that, it probably provoked the creature and ironically resulted in his own death.

Either way, the film's genius for even provoking such discussions. And not only that, the above aren't mutually-exclusive. He could have been ignorant about the mortal threat the banditos pose (as he's just a city-slicker), and he also realized that the guns hurt the situation with the monsters, not helped. And who knows what else the writer/director intended...

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Yeah, as I mentioned in the reply above, I am really only considering the threat of banditos, as the small arms seem pretty useless against the monsters.

I think if the director at least had him look at the assault rifle, maybe consider taking it, then passing on it, because perhaps he relized the futility, then I think it would have made at lot more sense, but not even giving it a second glanse, just rang totally false with me.

But for the most part, it was a pretty good movie.

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It's true to his character. When he first meets that group, he is all freaked out and angry they have guns. If even in a situation like that he was shocked and appalled they would have weapons, then he certainly isn't going to pick one up himself. Also they seem to be completely ineffectual against the monsters anyway. The Mexican posse and the US military convoy all get wiped out, so shooting the monsters doesn't do much, except possibly anger them.

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i dont think they mentioned it, but the mansters seemed to want to attack things that displayed more technology. like planes, cars, the store at the end with the computer...

maybe thats what the aliens found threatening, maybe its why he didnt pick up the gun?

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This is so common in movies. Protagonist passing the chance to get armed. It happened in Children of Men too. The entire world is trying to kill Clive Owen and he never bothers to pick up a single gun from all those dead guys.

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You're right. That was incredibly stupid, but I let it slide since I was enjoying the movie.



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