This show proves that men are natural leaders and women in a world w/o laws or rules are merely here for cooking and washing clothes. In season 1, the women did very little to help the colony. Oh yeah, she built a "gym". Right.
The best part was when the blonde chick screamed for Joey when someone was banging on the walls. She didn't yell for the chick who can build a punching bag....
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Uh no, you're wrong. They didn't show everything they made or attempted. Furthermore, only a moron would think that a sample size of a handful of people would be representative of the entire population. Quite frankly, I don't know who the you are, but I know without even meeting you that I would take that rocket scientist girl over you in an apocalyptic scenario.
shareI'm a guy, and to be honest if I wanted someone to "fight" (that is, one-on-one), I'd call for Leilani straight away over all the others! If we were being attacked by a group of intruders, I'd likely call to Joey first, as he was the unspoken 'leader' and definitely (IMO) the best one to organize against armed groups.
Note that John V nor either George were "alpha males" (Sian and Morgan were more "take charge" than they were!) and that John C's wife was probably more likely to "win a fight" than her husband, if that's what you're comparing against.
Sure, some of the women were fairly unskilled in survival (Sian, Amy, Morgan, etc.) and some (Alison, Becka) WERE more "girly" than others (Sally, Amber), but some were just as - if not more - capable than many of the men... I'd take my chances surviving with Sally or Amber over many of the other chest-thumping-something-to-prove guys any day. And while John C is far from a "tough guy" like Joey or Mike or Reno, but proved probably the most adaptive and rugged survivor of the lot!
Just to show I'm not biased, though, I'll say that I thought Sian was the most unlikable colonist in S2, and Mike was pretty much a huge douche in S1... however Mike was a very handy and skilled guy to have around!
The previous poster is also right that a LOT of projects weren't shown, and these were usually the "women's projects" that had to do with food preservation, cooking, clothing, etc. And before someone says "yeah, the girly stuff that doesn't matter", keep in mind that A) food was THE number one concern in both seasons (making meager rations taste great could mean the difference between survival and spiral into depression and suicide in a post-apocalypse world)... and B) watch the hilarious but heartfelt reaction of the guys in S1 when they get clean laundry/clothes and tell me they don't appreciate it!
I agree wit the last part banjo. Chicks cook and clean, we(men) go get all the stuff we need to survive. It's really that simple. Throw some feminist in the bunch, then the next thing you know it all goes to hell. (see current western society) Everything is bass ackwards and women are less happy than in the past. Period
You wonder why they are less happy? People in my age group, 29, are the first generation raised by single mothers. A mother can't teach a boy how to be a man. SO you end up with a society full of p whipped males.
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Please don't mistake what I'm saying: "chicks cook and clean" is something I do NOT agree with as a blanket statement! That is not how things "should" be except in some one-eyed, sexist world view. These gender roles are something our past society has created, not something that is "simple as that", IMO.
However, a lot of men are pretty useless when it comes to "domestic" tasks like cooking and cleaning, just as a lot of women are totally unskilled when it comes to fighting, survival skills, etc.
A woman is MORE LIKELY to go "Help! I don't want to brawl with this biker!" than a macho-minded guy. A man is MORE LIKELY to say "Help! I don't know how to wash my own clothes or fix my own dinner!" than a domestically-minded woman. That's just how most men and women are brought up, with different skill sets, and most will fall into those patterns in an extreme situation like The Colony, I would imagine (heck, now I sound like that idiot psychiatrist lady from the show! LOL!).
While I personally believe that the opposite sex needs to learn more about "the other half's" perceived jobs/roles (it annoys me when fellow males can't cook, for example!), it's silly to think that this will change overnight, if at all; someone like Mike will likely NEVER be any good in the kitchen or laundry, any more than Amy will likely EVER be eagerly taking on raiders with a machete and riot shield.
As for your final comment... I see what you're saying, but whether that's true or not (I personally don't agree, but it's a perfectly valid opinion), I think it's interesting to ask WHY single mothers are raising that generation, and what the fathers of that generation have to do with that. But that's probably a topic for elsewhere, not The Colony IMDb boards. :)
You don't have to agree. And why don't you agree?
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I disagree with a lot of what you say, but I DO agree that the women of season one were much less "useful" in a survival situation than the women of season 2.
In both cases, it was "people", regardless of gender, who made the difference.
In S1, Joey (attitude issues aside) was mostly a good leader. He handled the "grabbing incident" wrong but he was totally thinking correctly compared to everyone else. John C was the most amazing and skilled member of the entire group. Mike was a total jerk, but really had a useful skill set and brought a LOT to the table. Most of the others, notably most of the women, contributed a lot less than those three men did.
On the other hand, in S2, while we had Becka and Sian as "dead weight", it was mostly the GUYS this time who were whiny and emotional. Reno, Jim, George, and even DeVille all "lost it" at various points, were bitchy and argumentative, and none were suitable as leaders or even good "survivors".
That said, some interesting comments on the official website suggested that a lot of more "boring" (i.e essential but not "exciting" stuff like making clothes, cooking, hygiene, etc.) was done but never shown on screen, and this usually was by the cast members (both seasons) we see little of.
Anyway, short version: I'd take Amber and Sally (the latter being perhaps the best overall member of either cast for both skills and attitude, IMO) from S2 any day to survive with over their male fellows, but S1's John C, Mike and Joey would be my instant picks from that group.
It's not about gender, IMO, it's about individuals... and some were just "better" survivors than others. Just like any group, you'll get (male and female) whiners, chest-thumpers and dead weight as well as (male and female) useful and helpful members.
^^^ Great post.
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