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Is there going to be a second series of Paradox?


Is there going to be a second series of Paradox?

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Hopefully.

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would be great. Even though I did not like episodes 1, 2 and 3 the series was going to be very interesting with episodes 4 and 5. bring it back, please :) "help me"

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Sadly, no. The reader's letters section of this week Radio Times contained a query from a reader about a second series which brought about the reply (quoting from a BBC spokesperson): "In spite of a great cast and production team, Paradox did not find its audience in the way we had hoped. We remain very proud of it, but it will not be returning for another series."

Quite apart from being disappointed, as I really enjoyed the series, this comment annoys and disturbs me for two reasons.

1) If we take the statement at face value, it strongly implies that the BBC are more interested in chasing hypothetical missing viewers than they are in satisfying those they have already captured. In other words, the people who DON'T watch a given programme are in fact more important than those who DO watch it. Leading on from this,

2) Where is the incentive for anyone to invest time and effort in watching any BBC drama series if the Beeb are going to cancel it if they are unhappy about the size/nature of the viewing audience, thereby creating something of a self-fulfilling prophecy and guaranteeing lower viewing figures?

Also, I'm completely baffled by the timing of the announcement, coming as it does the same week as the DVD release of Paradox. It's almost like they are trying to wreck DVD sales! Also, they have just announced that they are going to be pushing the series to foreign TV markets at one of the big TV fairs. Are they going to be honest and tell prospective customers: "Your viewers will love this one, they will just be getting into it and on the edge of their seats during the last episode, when they get a real cliffhanger which just screams 'second series', but here's the thing - there won't be a second series! Still want to buy it?”

Ah well, if writer Lizze Mickery ever fancies turning her screenplay into a novel to explain and tie everything up, I'll certainly buy it!

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The decision making process about renewing a series is probably very complex.

As a viewer, I can understand that a recurring series will undoubtedly mean the cast get a bigger salary this time around - this was certainly responsible for the death of many relatively long running series in the U.S.

I can also grasp that purely commercial stations depend highly on a stable demographic of audiences to appeal to their advertisers. I would imagine there are many companies who would prefer knowing that the viewers are mostly 20s, or whatever. A show which appeals to a broad public is probably of less use to advertisers, and therefore unlikely to renewed.

But sometimes (as the quote from the BBC above shows) the decision making process itself seems oddly flawed.

Even if you ignore that the BBC is paid for via what is effectively a mandatory tax on every TV set owner in the UK, and therefore they can probably just show whatever they want as long as it gets a reasonable audience, the powers that commission shows still behave in an apparently irrational fashion.

Take, for example, Channel 4's Big Brother. Not too long ago the then head of the Channel said he'd dearly love to get rid of it, but what else could he replace it with, which cost the same, and had a regular, predictable audience for literally months? It's a fair argument, and one which probably sustains any soap opera, but it's clearly not the only point involved in the process.

This obviously isn't just something which occurs here; in America Pushing Daisies won accolade after accolade, and was firmly praised by critics and enjoyed decent audiences, but for some reason it went from hot fave to dead in the course of two seasons.

But even they still revive things; Stargate SG-1 was saved....but by syfy, who are now commissioning cookery shows for their sci-fi only channel. There's no predictable behaviour in TV land.

I find the BBC's attitude to sci-fi in general very inconsistent - Paradox had its faults, but it was a decent drama, and certainly from a viewer's perspective no more or less incoherent than Lost or FlashForward, but still it goes.

Sometimes there are clues that shows are being poked at by the channels involved; look at how The Bill lost most of its cast and was giving incidental music to somehow spruce up an entirely unbroken format.

You could see this was going to happen with Survivors, too - they introduced a major plotline (the couple using children as supply gathering slaves) in the first season and then never referred to it again in the second one - this would seem to me to indicate someone above the writers and production team trying to steer the series. If only someone had given the show a chance to explain how they never ran out of toiletries, but frequently managed to run out of water. Now we'll never know.

We can, of course, hope that the second series of Paradox does occur after all - the BBC weirdly obsesses over certain sci-fi traits (look how they've gone from killing Dr Who to giving it new life plus two spin-offs), and of course there is their all time favourite, Day of the Triffids.

You probably know the story quite well, as we all should - so far the BBC have made 7 (yes, SEVEN) radio versions, and 2 TV versions, despite it effectively only being Survivors + killer plants.

So, don't hold your breath, but don't give up hope either. Series can come back....

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You make some very interesting points in your post, Kerravon.

I've just read that RTL is showing Paradox in Germany this coming September; it will be interesting to see what sort of reception it gets there.

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Well, I did manage to chew the ear of Ben Stephenson, the BBC's Head of Drama Commissioning about this last week. He is the guy who decides which dramas get made and which ones return for a futher series and was a guest on Richard Bacon's Radio Five Live show, taking questions. I emailed him the following:

"What incentive is there for viewers to invest time and interest in drama series when they get left on a cliffhanger, with the story only half told, never to return? This happened recently with both "Paradox" and "Suvivors", the excuse being that they had "not found the audience we had hoped for". Just what exactly was wrong with the audiences theses series attracted, and why are the people that didn't watch them more important than those that did?"

My email was read out and Mr Stephenson responded that he did understand the frustration of viewers in this situation and that the BBC were "mitigating to avoid this situation in the future", whatever that may mean.

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Did anyone explain why Paradox was shut down? I thought it was a fascinating series, and I am getting sick and tired of all the good SciFi shows being canceled.

... Love keeps her up when she oughta fall down... Mal

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The official BBC explanation, buried deep in the Readers' Letters section of Radio Times in February was: "In spite of a great cast and production team, Paradox did not find its audience in the way we had hoped. We remain very proud of it, but it will not be returning for another series."

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Thanks for finding that. It is pretty disappointing that the BBC didn't let the series run long enough for the public to be able to see it first. I live in Australia and it only recently made our screens on Foxtel.

... Love keeps her up when she oughta fall down... Mal

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I couldn't agree more.

Don't know if you've had a chance to look through all of this thread, but if not, have a look at the post I put up on, I think, 16 August, where I described how I had put my concerns about ending series like Paradox on a cliffhanger without resolution to Ben Stephenson, BBC Head of Drama Commissioning the guy who makes the decission as to whether or not the BBC commission/recommission a particular drama series.

Glad you have at least had a chance to see Paradox in Australia, I know it is currently also being shown in Germany.

Cheers

Dee

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Whilst it had a gripping finale, it just did not gel into a coherent series.

It also needed some humour and animated characters.


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I just wish they had paid the audience the compliment of actually tying up the loose ends if there was only realistically going to be one season.

BBC1 have a new SF series "Outcasts" starting tomorrow night (Monday 7 February) - I don't know if I can be bothered to put in the effort to watch it and then get let down by only being given half a story, with no guarantee of any answers/story resolution.

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I think the makers of Paradox had a 3 series plan. In fact they all do these days but as I said the ratings were not spectacular and hence why we ended up with an unresolved ending.



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Well I hope there isn't another series. This was bad TV in my opinion. It was formulaic in terms of the characters used (male lead, female lead, nerd, and minority character), the characters weren't explored enough, aspects of the plot weren't explored enough, aspects of the plot seemed too far fetched... which could have been salvaged with more explanation for their origin.

At least the BBC realised this.

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It really seems to be an effect of the genre itself. Here in North America the industry is replete with examples of great sci-fi/fantasy series that are inexplicably cancelled (typically one asumes ratings are the issue, but I think this is a flawed perspective, because there are absolute garbage shows which get continued, I would site "The Event" and the remake of "V" as examples).

The fox network is especially culpable in this area. There should be an understanding with the production companies that if a show is going to be terminated they will produce a two part early finale to wrap up the story line as best as possible. At least with Firefly, for example, they where able to spin off a feature length film.

Another recent example was the series Flash Forward, it stuns me that they cancelled that show; it could have used a two hour finale to at least wrap it up, it would be much more saleable in after markets that way anyway, how is it that they dont see this?

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I couldn't agree with you more. I am so sick of Fox canceling the really good shows. They canceled Firefly, and worse they even showed the episodes out of order, so that when I first saw it aired on TV here in Oz, I was really confused. But my adult son bought the Firefly series on DVD and I saw it all in the correct order, and loved it. My footer below is from the movie "Serenity", which Fox eventually capitulated on, and permitted the ending to be made into a movie by Universal, because the "Browncoats" all over the world made such a fuss about the cancellation.

I haven't seen "Paradox" here in Australia, but I do feel your pain. So if anyone is a fan of a specific series which is canceled then I suggest that you and other fans kick up a stink about it, organize and go viral with your complaints, which is what the "Firefly - Joss Whedon" fans did.


... Love keeps her up when she oughta fall down... Mal

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The concept just did not grab audiences enough and the characters did not gel.

With other shows the BBC can try out then this was going to be canned.

Its that man again!!

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One of my favorites was The Dresden Files which Syfy (or, SciFi at the time), shut down after about a dozen eps... though this has been some years ago.

I actually rather liked the V remake.

As to Paradox, I've just now gotten to it and like it well. Flashforward was a very interesting concept, curious decision making.

I've come to seek out these short-lived sci-fi relics as fascinating oddities-- practically a genre, or sub-genre, unto themselves. The Dead-enders. When one watches these lost gems, knowing of course that this is all there is, it's like watching a parallel universe in which the people don't know their fate.. and you don't as far as the actual story events are concerned. But you do know their ultimate fate = Cancellation, and remaindered to near-oblivion. I like to keep them company... at least for a little while.

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A link to another comment by BBC Head of Drama Commissioning Ben Stephenson on the same subject:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/08/18/beeb-takes-the-wait-off-115875-22495223/

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wish i'd read your review before i watched it and got sucked in. sigh

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It's such a shame it was cancelled, it had so much potential.

Every time I see Tamzin Outhwaite (now in New Tricks), Emun Elliott (The Paradise) or Mark Bonnar (The Paradise and Line of Duty) I'm pleased that they've gone on to other good stuff but wish that they could have been kept together for at least one further series of Paradox.

Thanks for reading and replying to my review btw!

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Every time I see Tamzin Outhwaite I can see why Paradox was canned!

Its that man again!!

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No it is cancelled

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