Its not GOOD that Ryan died


Im sick of some people saying that its good. First of all nobody deserves to die (except maybe Gary Ridgway). Second of all, he will never serve time for what he did to that girl and her mom said he took the "coward" way out. I read another post that said they didnt think he intentionally killed her and I agree. Does that make it ok? NO!! But what happened to Ryan is still sad all the same. A lot of you wont agree but screw it, its imdb where you post opinions so Im posting mine.

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I think it is very tragic what happened, I don't believe he planned on murdering her.

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I agree with some of what you said but I dont think it was her fault. NONE of them deservd to die and I REALLY didnt want to hear that he was found dead when he was located. I had a dream two nights in a row that something happened to him and then the next day it did and I cant explain why its so sad. How a millionaire, and winner of ILM3 could throw his life away by killing a beaufitul women is unexplainable. He even has statuses on his facebook that says he cant wait to start booking appearances. He loved life and I do not think this was all premeditated. I would never blame the victim or say it was ok what he did but I do agree that its tragedy that he ruined his own life. I dont care about my haters. I have my own opinions. Yeh its sad that she died but im very sad for him also.

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To be fair, he may have freaked out and later came to regret what he did.

The problem is, now we'll never really know.

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Yeh but those of us who look at both sides of the tragedy can only assume. Everyone whos hating him will only say he meant to do it and let them think that.

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He murdered someone. If someone murdered you, would you be happy if they were running around free? I know I wouldn't.


Not to be a smartass or anything but if you were murdered you wouldnt KNOW he was free because you would be dead.


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I'm really hoping you are being sarcastic right now because no.

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I agree it wasnt worth it. I see where your coming from though. Unfortunetly we are the few that think like that. Most on here will tear our heads off for sticking up for Ryan but I just realy dont care.

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People who take away life (especially in such horrific fashion) do not deserve to have their own. The OP is pathetic, had Ryan killed somebody you knew or loved, I bet your feelings would be different.

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No I wouldnt because Id want him alive to pay and serve time.

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It's a difference of opinion, I don't think a life should ever be taken no matter what that person has done. I'm against the death penalty and wouldn't wish it on my worse enemy.

Not everyone has the same feelings on the topic but there have been families of victims who have come forward and said they don't want their murder put to death.

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Exactly rubydagger. The green river killer Gary Ridgway was told by one his victims fathers that he wasnt going to yell at him but forgive him. Garys a SICK one too.

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Well you have a few things wrong. Not to sound rude. But she married him 2 days later not weeks. And The incident occured in June. Not that it matters. Heres the thing, I will NEVER say its ok to hit a girl or kill ANYBODY but if Ryan had beaten the crap out of her for this charge in June, my view would be different. He punched her in the arm. STILL not ok. Im not saying this is ok. But I have punched bfs in the arm. They have punched me in the arm. I didnt see that enough to file charges. They never hit or slap me, it was a punch in the arm. Half playfully. It doesnt mean Ryan was playful and Im not justifying what he did but people keep saying hes a sick woman beater who has this huge criminal past. He has two charges and thats bad yes, but it doesnt mean he is a cold blooded murderer.

Im also not saying it was Jasmines fault, but the fact hat he did cut off her fingers and pull out her teeth is why people are calling him words like "sick" and "sadistic". Again...he didnt do that while she was alive. He probably and most likely did that while freaking out by the "Accidental" killing. Im gonna keep saying it was an accident, This man was rich, good looking, and just won $250,000!! Not a lot of people are going to ruin this ife.

NOTHING IM SAYING IS TRANSLATION FOR HE IS A GOOD GUY AND ITS OK WHAT HE DID. But Im sick of everyone acting like they were there.

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He was a pretty good looking guy, maybe Jasmine married for that too. But yeh rich men should see it coming. His sanity obviously wasn't all there if he killed himself. He didnt give himself a fair trial to try to prove himself innocent because he knew he was guilty and didnt want to serve time. Its crazy to take your own life over prison. So many guys are in prison right now who would rather serve their time and breathe and eat and live then to kill themselves. Not like they have much sanity of their own, since their in prison. But they have more then Ryan obviously. But who knows, maybe Ryan had guilt over what he did to Jasmine. Sad thing is, now that hes dead NOBODY will ever know because the only person who TRULY knows it was an accident is dead now.

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He has two charges and thats bad yes, but it doesnt mean he is a cold blooded murderer.


Having two assault charges is pretty bad actually. And wtf!?Am I in a dream world wear he ISN"T a cold blooded murderer? Yes he is one. He murdered more viscously then the average person would, I think. That's why it's so wrong.

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I dont doubt he isnt the one who killed her. But its called a crime of passion. Which is NEVER ok. But it isnt cold hearted like serial killers. He didnt torture her to death or freeze her head like dahmer. Im gonna say this one more time. WHAT HE DID WAS NOT OK. But if some people feel im sticking up for him, then let them tear me down online. whatever.

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He didnt torture her to death or freeze her head like dahmer.

You're right, he didn't freeze her. He just beat all her teeth out of her head, sawed off all her fingers, snapped her bones to fit her entire body into a suitcase and toss her in a dumpster. But at least he didn't freeze her head. LOLOL.

"I hath telekinesis." he answered cruelly.

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Some people on here are missing the point. I am very well aware of what he did AFTER he (in my OP accidentally) killed her. Im not saying hes innocent and this great guy. Im just ofne of those who doesnt believe his intent was to ruin both their lives and im standing by that no matter what imdb people say to me.

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Dahmer only froze people AFTER he killed them.

I get what you're saying. I don't think this guy was a serial killer or anything but what he did was still extremely gruesome.

"I hath telekinesis." he answered cruelly.

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Some people honestly believe no one deserves death no matter what they do in their life.

I'm strongly against the death penalty, believe that suicide is always a tragedy and that situations like this are complicated.

Saying that you believe it was never his intention to murder her that night does not make you as bad them. It makes you understand that humans are far more complicated than a simple 'he's good, he's evil' and everything does come down to case by case.

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You are a blabbering idiot. The more you talk the stupider you sound. And for your information all of your info is pretty much wrong. They got married 2 weeks after not 2 days. He proposed after 2 days. And he wasn't a cold blooded murderer? It makes it so much better that he didn't cut her up when she was still alive. What a saint!

Why you guys stick up for him idk. Maybe you guys are golddiggers and are trying to impress some rich dude with serial killer tendancies. That is my goal in life! uhm... NO... Keep typing until you convince yourself, but this *beep* doesn't have any of my sympothy. Honestly neither do any of you guys sticking up for him.

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I agree. I doubt they'd be sticking up for him if this happened to a loved one of theirs. It's pretty obvious he killed her. He walks in the hotel with her, then she's never seen again - only he's seen walking out. These people really need to research on the evidence.

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"Whatever happened I'm sure that woman started it all and drove him to do what he did.May he rest in peace,it's a shame he was provoked into doing what he did and is seen as a bad guy,when he was just a victim of circumstance,he was weak minded and let someone get the best of him and now he's gone"

I'm not trying to rip your head off, I just want you to explain. What could she have done that would justify murder? I'm saying this as someone who has experienced a murder in my family involving two family members. I know what drove the murderer. He was tortured by the man he murdered. But it was still murder. He confessed and took his punishment like a man. Ryan couldn't even do that. He didn't even have the balls to face up to what he did. Pathetic.

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You know what guys? I agree.He was a young man with his whole life ahead of him,it's such a tragedy that he riuned it for a type of woman that are a dime a dozen,how did he let someone like that drive him to do such a thing? Anyway it wasn't worth it to kill himself,he could have hired Mark Geragos to defend him and would have probably stayed out of jail like that bastard O.J who killed not one but two people in what I'm sure was a premeditated murder.Whatever happened I'm sure that woman started it all and drove him to do what he did.May he rest in peace,it's a shame he was provoked into doing what he did and is seen as a bad guy,when he was just a victim of circumstance,he was weak minded and let someone get the best of him and now he's gone :( A life so promising,ended tragically for someone who wasn't even worth it,shame on her!
ps.Before the sexist comments start,let me clarify that I'm a woman ;)



holy crap... you are sick... i read this shocked and i am sickened that you would blame the victim... a poor woman was BUTCHERED by this animal. whether or not he planned it beforehand or not doesnt matter.. he cut off the girls fingers and removed her teeth.. he fled because he was guilty.. and you pity him? not the poor woman who lost her life at his hands.. its disgusting.. i bet your one of those psychos who send letters to serial killers... you deserve what you get.. and it wont be good i hope..

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No, I feel bad for all the parties involved here, including Ryan. I'm sure after it was all done, even he didn't realize the magnitude of what he did. Nobody is born a murderer. We're all born innocent. In his case, something was lacking in his background and upbringing that would ever lead him to a place where he would be capable of this.

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STOP THE HATING!

How is your hate helping this situation Haterlicious? How is it helping to understand the situation, the pathology of this person or what lead up to this horror story happening in the first place? How is you being STUCK on hate helping your life?

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I don't think Haterlicious is hating. But it's upsetting and disturbing to hear the OP's views about this situation wen most ppl can agree that ryan is in no way a victim and also 100% to blame.

Haterlicious simply stated the horryifying but true details of the murder. And when u see the FACTS. Not useless and/or biased info, it's clear the OP is wrong and obviously has some weird attachment to Ryan.

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Who said Ryan was a victim? The OP is just trying to understand the psychological ramifications of the situation. This didn't have to happen. There are ingredients that some people are provided growing up and some who are not that determine how ANYONE could have it in them to take another person's life.

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I agree he was a horrible person to do that but no one deserves to die or say someone should die.

Lonely chicago pie

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Um...I'm from Texas as well & I've NEVER heard that "Here, we strongly believe" what you just said we strongly believe in here. LMFAO!

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Sorry but it IS good--he saved the taxpayers of California millions of dollars! =D Oh, and he murdered and mutilated someone, so, you know, he deserved to die.



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Those were actions that were taken ~after~ she was dead to cover up her murder.

It's within the realm of possibility that he never intended to kill her, things got out of hand and he did it in the heat of passion.

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What are you talking about??? He did take the coward's way out. He should've stayed alive to be thrown in jail like the mudering wife-killing swinely snake that he is.

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Ryan committed suicide, but that doesn't mean that he was guilty . A lot of people had tried to committed suicide when someone they loved ,or care for died. The case of the father of Casey Anthony tried to commit suicide because his daughter is facing a life sentence for murder. O.J Simpson tried to commit suicide after the murder of his ex-wife, which everyone believe him to be guilty (I really believe he killed his ex- wife) yet, he was found NOT guilty. A suicide is not an admission of guilt. so it not good that Ryan died, because there is a lot of unanswered question.




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Thank you kadeskiss. Thats what i was trying to say. Although i wish casey anthony would off herself.

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