I did not see the movie yet but the trailer looked awesome.
I heard some on this movie board suggest that they might be Asian but who could it be?
Why are they dressed like US SWAT team units?
North Koreans?Syrians?Iranians?Afghani? or perhaps the most logical nation that has the manpower and fleet to do so-China!
BTW Japan was on the brink of invading Australia early in World War 2.
The country is never specified, in the books or the film, and while the soldiers we see up close are played by Asian actors, there's also a reference to a "coalition" of countries.
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Indonesia?
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They use AK's can't be Indonesia or China since they use different primary rifles. By giving them AK's and putting them in a dark uniform and decking them out in swat-like gear. The director made them into a non-existent army.
I like to think it's a futuristic nation state that doesn't exist yet. But realistically they would never use a cheap rifle like the AK as their primary rifle if they were given so much expensive swat-like equipment, and simplistic/non-existent camo uniform. They almost seem like security contractors, which perhaps they are in a future war where alot of the invasion force were mercenaries.
So yeah, the soldiers we see in the film were likely security contractors, not actual soldiers of a nation state. The fact that they are asian in appearance though, supports the view it was a hostile asian force which invaded Australia. But it couldn't have been China because they don't need contract soldiers. This leaves only Indonesia with Chinese security contractor help.
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It can only be China. Only two non-NATO countries have the ability to effectively wage war with the entire western world and commit offensive operations e.g. invading a nation, these countries are China and Russia, and the soldiers are portrayed by Asians -> China. Indonesia or North Korea don't have nearly the military potential to invade a country like Australia.
Hell, North Korea isn't even able to feed its own population. How are they supposed to wage an aggressive war? You tell me that. They're not even the most powerful force on their own peninsula. Not even close.
While this actual scenario really isnt plausible, the books were written when Indonesia was still ruled by the Suharto military regime. My guess is that the force was loosely based on them, but also plays on the memory of Japan in WWII.
Back then a lot of fools in Australia tried to claim that Indonesia had intentions to take parts of Northern Australia. So there was a small sentiment of asian phobia at the time for some segments of the Australian population.
The actual nation or group of nations isnt important. The motive is, and it is explained a bit in the film and books.
they were clearly speaking Japanese in one of the scenes when the officer guy headshotted the civilian
shareThey wore swat uniforms because no army would or does and therefore the audience is supposed to think, "Is that a coalition of conscripted and untrained Asian soldiers attacking?" instead of "Why are those country-nonspecific soldiers wearing swat uniforms with no identifying markings of any kind?" which seems to be the main question when watching this movie.
The fact that there is no country, ideology or expressed motive of any kind speaks volumes about the fact that this is based on teen fiction (I assume) and plays as a teen fantasy. What's intriguing to me is that in a way they have made the enemy faceless, sort of like storm troopers in Star Wars, but we only see there faces and we know they are Asian. So in a way the story is kind of racist in that the enemy is no particular country but a race of people. I don't think that was their intention, at least not consciously, but it certainly can be interpreted that way. I'm the last guy to point the "You're a racist" finger but if you don't take a stand and leave it open then you get what you get.
Racist??
Considering where Australia is located in the world, who do you suggest is more plausible to invade them than Asians?
In the book & film, they are non-specific as it is not relevant to the story. You just need to know they’ve an enemy to fight back against.
As I said, I don't think that was the intent but if you make the invading force from no particular country but make them all of one race, then there are conclusions that can be drawn.
Imagine, if you will, they had instead made a film about a coalition of black soldiers from various countries, or a coalition of Muslim soldiers from various countries (Jihad much?). The fact that it is not a single country with a nationalistic agenda raises questions. When the author chose for the characters to state that it wasn't important who the invading force was, it again made me think of this as a work aimed at a juvenile audience.
…in a way the story is kind of racist in that the enemy is no particular country but a race of people.
the author chose for the characters to state that it wasn't important who the invading force was
there is no country, ideology or expressed motive
But I don't get any of that from the movie so I'm left feeling so very empty.
sharelol a coalition of african soldiers or arab soldiers would probably come off as more racist to your average viewer.
But it would make more sense, perhaps a future facist hostile african force or as you say a muslim fundamentalist force made up of arabs.
But such an enemy would have been too distracting.
I guess they could have made them a multicultural force and made them speak gibberish but that's just too pc.
Better what they had in the film, asian invaders from some unknown country. Because this reflects reality the best, if Australia is going to get invaded one day it will be by asians, cause Australia is in asia.
Strange, I was under the impression that Australia was its own continent.
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It was Wales that invaded, the silver star worn on the soldier's sleeves is indicative of Welsh special forces, the Asian faces threw me at first but I think they were masks.
Now you're all thinking "12,000 miles is a long way to go for a standing Army of 12,000!" Well, the Welsh value 4 things, rugby, singing, pot noodle and sheep. Now I don't know about the singing or pot noodle, but 2 out of 4 ain't bad.
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I just watched this after watching the latest version of Red Dawn. I knew there would be similarities and fights over this one over that one, but I was curious. The biggest problem I have is the cowardly act of political correctness on the part of the makers of this movie to not name the country of the invading/occupying military. There is only one Asian country with a leader crazy enough to even try it and that's North Korea but they don't have the means. North Korea don't even have helmets as advanced as the ones used in this movie, they still wear steel pots. Don't want to offend just one Asian country (North Korea) so let offend them all but cover it up by including one with the good guys.
No, not a cowardly act of political correctness on the part of the makers of this movie to not name the country of the invading/occupying military; Just that the nationality of the invaders wasn't considered important. They are an enemy for the group to fight against. The story is about how they survive fighting against them. There is more to their story than just this film.
shareI agree with this, it was a cowardly act on the part of the movie makers..and really shows liberalism and political correctness at its finest.
shareI agree with this, it was a cowardly act on the part of the movie makers..and really shows liberalism and political correctness at its finest.
I would assume Japan. I wouldn't be surprised if this movie was based on the bombing in Darwin the Japanese were responsible for in the 40's.
shareNo, not Japan. In the books Japan gives aircraft to help fight against the invaders. Other nations help with equipment but not soldiers so a very strange political situation must exist in this world for that to happen.
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