Pretty stunned, and pleased, how many times the words 'England' and 'English' are used in the movie. Hollywood always uses the 'UK' and 'British' to keep things simple for American movie-goers.
This is such a rare event that it deserves a thread.
Nice to know that Hollywood does in fact realise England is a country.
No. It's because it was directed by an Irishman that the word English was used.
shareAgreed. Hollywood is still ignorant that England is a country, as am I.
shareActually I think its quite the opposite, many Americans use England interchangeably with Britain and UK and sometimes don't realize that Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland are part of the UK as well. This movie actually said "London, UK" and "Hereford, UK" on the captions while most American movies would say "England" though usually they would say British. I mean British refers to the entire UK while English is just England.
I was surprised they didn't show Big Ben a single time in their shots of London. And they made England look like a very dreary place, just like in Harry Brown and Blitz they made the British ghettos look worse than Harlem.
British refers to the people of Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) So, someone from N.I. is not British, even though it is part of the U.K.
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people from Scotland/Wales aren't British they are Scottish/Welsh call the British your asking for a fight
sharemvassa71 you are so wrong. N.Ireland is also part of Britain, thus its inhabitants are British. Great Britain and Ireland form the British Isles (the term 'Great' only refers to the fact it's the larger island). It is also why in rugby the British Lions were so called, with the country of Ireland also included. So do please brush-up your geography and history, there's a good chap.
shareThis movie was not shot in london
The majority was filmed in australi.
The hospital and rooftop stuff was all in australia
The pub scenes were in wales
@subase:
"Agreed. Hollywood is still ignorant that England is a country, as am I."
England is NOT country. England is a territory that makes up part of the United Kingdom. The United Kingdom (also known as Great Britain) IS a country.
"England is NOT country. England is a territory that makes up part of the United Kingdom. The United Kingdom (also known as Great Britain) IS a country."
Actually "England" is a country, the "United Kingdom" is a sovereign state, but is also commonly referred to as a country also to lessen confusion.
As an Englishman myself, it doesn't particularly bother me when an American movie uses the whole "London, UK" thing rather than "London, England", though.
re: "England is NOT country. England is a territory that makes up part of the United Kingdom. The United Kingdom (also known as Great Britain) IS a country."
Actually "England" is a country, the "United Kingdom" is a sovereign state, but is also commonly referred to as a country also to lessen confusion.
...but a MANWICH (with fish 'n' chips) is more of a meal!
"Confusion" is American as Mom's topless apple pie! (For crying out loud, look at Ron Paul: He doesn't know his racist *** from his fundamentalist elbow!)
In conclusion, remember the words of James Bond movie meanie Ernst Stavro Blofeld (to James Bond in "Diamonds Are Forever"): "Your pitiful little island hasn't even been threatened."
Let's all not go around trying to kill each other now.
shareUK = The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Britain = England and Wales. Great Britain = England, Scotland and Wales. UK does not equal Britain or England.
shareUK = The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Britain = England and Wales. Great Britain = England, Scotland and Wales. UK does not equal Britain nor England.
shareUK = The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Britain = England and Wales. Great Britain = England, Scotland and Wales. UK does not equal Britain nor England.
shareNah, Hollywood still hasn't a clue in distinguishing what is Britain/UK/England and British/English.
This film, directed by an Irishman, and also filmed in Australia (Melbourne, Victoria) may have something to do with it, where the concept is not difficult at all to grasp. That's not to say that the film may yet get dumbed down for the US market by dubbing in UK/Brish/Brits etc. No offence is meant by this as it happens all too frequently. I still haven't got over the butchering of "Mad Max" for the US market back in the 80's.
We live in a global village now, except Hollywood exports their films to English markets as is, and films from the U.K., Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and other English-speaking markets have to be reverse-engineered to satisfy US film distributors. Crazy imperialistic ideology that still lives on in this day and age.
Ciao!
et tu, Bruté?
Locked my wire coat-hanger in the car - good thing that I always carry spare keys in my pocket :)
"Locked my wire coat-hanger in the car - good thing that I always carry spare keys in my pocket :)"
Never mind the movie, I nearly p33d myself when I read hat. I opened hundreds of cars with a wire coat hanger in the 70's, 80's and 90's. For the owners, I was a mechanic. :)
I might add that both Clive Owen and Jason Statham are from England as well. Actually I was surprised to read that the movie is an american/aussie production because it had a very british feeling to me.
shareTerrapin2212 is absolutely right .I don't really know where the OP is coming from..'England' is the most frequent word used in movies for Britain by Americans that either know no better or more likely, use it as a simplifier...I find it annoying especially when Americans say things like "When England fought against Germany in ww2".
You Just Brought A Gun To A Bomb Fight, Officer!!!
Can't see it makes much diffrence, more so as the locations used looked nothing like 'England' in the eighties.
shareI`d have to disagree on not looking like England in the 80`s. Thought the film had the era spot on, clothes, cars even down to the lack of parked cars everywhere. As is the norm now :)
shareI know an American who thinks London is a country and Brit is a city.
Go figure? lol
If it harms none, do what thou wilt.
You're joking right? 99% of the time American movies refer to the whole of the United Kingdom as 'England' to keep things simple.
Why do you care anyway? England is part of Britain, being called British is perfectly fine unless of course you're a complete prick who hates Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland.
Don't you hate it when a signature looks like part of the post?
You don't know much do you?
shareI don't see this as a problem. Let ignorant people confuse England with Britain, and the United States with America.
shareIt sounds like you British/English/UK people cant even agree yourselves. Maybe you should figure it out before calling Americans ignorant.
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As I have said elsewhere: "People in Ireland NEVER (unless they are from English stock) use the term British Isles. That term implies they are British. They use the term "The Isles" to describe the islands you have referred to. To call them the "British Isles" shows both a lack of education and an arrogance which is pathetically obvious".
No amount of referencing to wikipedia will change that - wikipedia is a moveable feast.
Though you really should look at the "talk" section of Wikipedia in relation to "British Isles" if you are going to quote wikipedia ..... "The British Isles are a group of islands off the northwest coast of continental Europe that are sometimes thought to include the islands of Great Britain, Ireland and over six thousand smaller isles.[9] However, The term British Isles is politically loaded and has become somewhat dated as a geographical term, especially since the independence of part of the island of Ireland in 1948[ .... The term British Isles is controversial in Ireland,[9][18] where there are objections to its usage due to the association of the word British with Ireland.[19] The Government of Ireland does not recognise or use the term[20] and its embassy in London discourages its use.[21] As a result, Britain and Ireland is used as an alternative description,[19][22][23] and Atlantic Archipelago has had limited use among a minority in academia".
Pc brigade on the way! Your post aches of bitterness. At least half of Norn Iron refer to Eire as part of the British Isles. I know loads of people from Belfast.
Go and eat your potatoes hun.
Lol am I English or British? Yes, I'm English, and England is a country.. but I'm British too right?
No seriously England Ireland Scotland Wales are 4 countries which make up the British isles. It's a lack of education not knowing that.
And the movie was filmed in OZ for the most past :)
England is a country, but it is also a part of a larger group, Great Britain or the United Kingdom).
North America is a country but it is also referred to as past of the 'Americas' with South America.
Australia and New Zealand are countries but are also referred to as part of the Commonwealth.
re: "North America is a country"
It's a CONTINENT...whatsa matter with you people?!?
Someday, with the grace of G*d, an Australian director will make a movie about Irish people living in England, with American supporting characters (playing best friends, love interests, incompetent or corrupt cops or spies) for comedy relief...it will star Julia Roberts and NO ONE WILL LIKE IT, uniting all English-speaking peoples in their hatred for this movie. Peace will reign in the Commonwealth, and Russell Brand will be "relocated" to Argentina, where he can't hurt anybody.
I have a dream.
People in Ireland NEVER (unless they are from English stock) use the term British Isles. That term implies they are British. They use the term "The Isles" to describe the islands you have referred to. To call them the "British Isles" shows both a lack of education and an arrogance which is pathetically obvious.
shareMy other pet peeve is when they show the Eiffel tower before any scene set in Paris in any movie ever.
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