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real kids don't have any idea who Sandman is.

posted 10 years ago by reaseltbim
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I Loved the movie. I thought it was probably one of the best movies I've seen lately. It was great.

But the one thing that made me roll my eyes a little bit was the fact that kids in this movie knew about the sandman, and not only knew him but actually believed in him.

Today, I don't think anyone even knows who the sandman is. Most people probably don't know him. (Unless you are a fan of Neil Gaiman)

So seeing the kids believing in him and even the kid in the room calling his name was kind of weird for me

[–] fabi_o 10 years ago

In europe the sandman is well known

[–] reaseltbim 10 years ago

just like in the movie? with helping kids dreaming and everything?

[–] KoshVader 9 years ago

I'm in Europe (UK specifically) and this is the second time I've heard of it. First was the Neil Gaiman book but I haven't read it. This is kind of awkward as I'm interested in folklore.

I may have to look this up later.

[–] sands-821-414469 10 years ago

True I only knew of the Sandman from two songs "Mr. Sandman" and "Enter the Sandman" lol, he was the coolest character in this movie with the Tooth fairy being the lamest with horrible costume.

[–] ads61190 10 years ago

Maybe I'm wrong, but I got the impression from the movie that Sandy was a bit different. How his powers stemmed from children having fun dreams and when they started having nightmares he slowly became weaker.

I didn't feel like there was a big 'children need to believe in him' type thing happening. Pitch had to basically infect him with some nightmare sand to defeat him.

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[–] reaseltbim 10 years ago

yeah maybe.

I Also wondered how Jack Frost had any powers since no one believed in him

[–] hal-9010 10 years ago

Boogeyman said it was the fine print of being a Guardian, so none guardians we must assume will not perish if none believes. So why then become a Guardian? Well, I assume the perks are pretty good plus your powers are fueled by believes and thus a petty good fix.

If someone believes in Sandman or not matters less, as we dream and thus believe or at least acknowledge. An analogy is perhaps not believing in North but do believe in the magic of Christmas. Anyways, Boogeyman said it had taken him long to perfect his nightmare sand, so all in all Sandman is of a different breed and is much harder to weaken as he himself controls his own stimulus directly to the brains and hearts of children, whereas the others only control it indirectly via their performance.

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[–] ScrystaLz 9 years ago

you don't have to be a guardian to have powers, Jack Frost is a mythical character and his powers does not manifest from children's belief, unlike the other guardians, his powers was given to him by the man on the moon, and I'm sure there are other mythical beings who exist but are not guardians, and do not have to be believed by children to have powers. I think what defines one as a 'guardian' is once they become one, their powers are then linked to the children's beliefs and faith, they protect the children and become visible to them, and if the children lose faith and belief in them, their powers weaken.

For the majority of the movie, Jack Frost was a mythical entity who was given powers by the man on the moon, but was not yet an official guardian, but he became one once children started to believe in him.

[–] fuzi11 10 years ago

in germany the sandman is probably one of the most known fictional (?) characters ever. there is a show about him every day at 7pm for little kids and it's running for over three decades if not even longer. sandman tells a short stories to help children prepare for sleeping time.

Edit: sorry, 6 decades

[–] reaseltbim 10 years ago

that is really nice actually. thank you for sharing.

[–] megArnold 10 years ago

Yeah, and you know those little hard grains of dried tears that you find in the corner of your eyes in the morning? According to what I was told as a child, that's actually grains of sand that the Sandman pours in your eyes to make you dream.

From what I've heard, the Sandman is more a European tradition (as is the "Tooth Mouse" ;-)

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[–] reaseltbim 10 years ago

they also have the tooth mouse in south america lol

[–] merh 9 years ago

My mother said the stuff in you eyes upon waking is Sandman ssnd.

I'm 55 so she was an older mom. I swear modern American kids get exposed to so little tradition.

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[–] thsweetestbitch 9 years ago

in germany the sandman is probably one of the most known fictional (?) characters ever. there is a show about him every day at 7pm for little kids and it's running for over three decades if not even longer. sandman tells a short stories to help children prepare for sleeping time.

Edit: sorry, 6 decades

WOW! That's 60 YEARS!! That's truly amazing, a novel idea. I wish the U.S. and Canada had thought to do such a cute show.

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[–] bottleshock34 9 years ago

That's such a good idea.

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[–] ScrystaLz 9 years ago

I've known about the Sandman since childhood, my parents used to tell me stories about him when I was kid.

I love Sandman in the movie, even though he never talked but he's so cute, he's definitely 1 of my favorite characters in the movie, along with Bunny & Jack Frost 

[–] tuxpux 9 years ago

Scandinavia has their own Sandman, and he is called John Blund. He is a naturespirit that according to old folktales he has two sleep-umbrellas with him. One black for the naughty kids and one colorful for the kind kids. He also has a syringe with sweet milk that he uses on kids eyes so they fall asleep, instead of dust I guess. :)

H.C. Andersen called him John Blund, in Sweden they translated his name to Jon Blund.
He also exist in Iceland and Finland but under other names.