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Anyone else irked by them calling small/erratic businesses "hobbies?"


I notice the sharks tend to sometimes call businesses hobbies if they aren't a certain level of operation or income -- or if they don't like the way the business is run. I personally find it kind of insulting for different reasons:

1. The term "hobby" could be applied to even large-scale businesses and their operations, in the sense that their founders/workers enjoy working there and having an established brand -- i.e., it's a hobby by passion but a business by work/earnings;

2. Their selective, peculiar definition on when a business isn't suitable enough to them doesn't necessarily warrant the labeling of any specific business as a "hobby," which to me sounds like a jab at the business as a whole and/or the person.

I have always been self-employed and I don't consider what I do a "hobby" exactly or anything of the nature of "not a real business" or etc. I get the impression that the sharks often use the term "hobby" synonymously with "not a real business" solely because they don't like its past operations/profit gaps/shortcomings/challenges/etc.

A "business" isn't determined by how much you make, but by how work is done/operated/etc. In many cases the only differences between a "business" or a "job" could just be taxes and work flexibility options/freedom more -- that's about it really. You don't have to be very wealthy to be a good/successful businessperson -- and you can be very wealthy without being a good businessperson at all. We shouldn't attribute one's status of "successful" or not as a way to take a jab at their character/mode of business operations. If this is how you look at it, then we could say every mega business is "good" and every small business is "bad" because the popular one is earning more than the smaller one.

This isn't true exactly though -- and following this way of thinking so black and white is how you get a monopoly on the market from one side (the "big and good" business) and an absolute failure on the other (small mom & pop shops; freelancer market; etc.).

I get that they have the right to pursue any business they want -- especially established, more likely to be highly profitable and successful businesses -- but there's no real need to undermine someone/their work/etc. by calling everything they have just a "hobby" like as if it's not "real enough" to them. You can say you're not interested, but I get the feeling that it's more a jab at the business/person personally than just expressing their disinterest for financial reasons and specifying it as such.

For example, I'm referring to when they say stuff like, "This isn't a business -- it's a hobby," even when said people they're referring to have made significant profits at times. To me, any profit at all counts as a business when it's freelance/etc., even if it's erratic/low paying. No need to place small earners in a less respectable category or liken their work to "hobby-ish" rather than "business-ish" because you don't like their business structure.

I just really get annoyed at how some people only consider business or self-employment "real" when its earnings meet their personal ideal of what a "business should be" to count as true. Plenty of people work hard and for themselves and can still struggle to get by. I don't think it'd be right to call these people mere "hobbyists" and presume they're not truly dedicated to what they're aiming to do/not "real" business because they aren't super rich and/or running a conglomerate-potential brand.

It's the same concept as when people tell entrepreneurs/poorer self employed individuals and those trying to work for themselves to "get a real job" and consider them losers or such when they're just often trying to be self-sufficient and not stuck to one dead end job forever or the like. It's in a way an insult or undermining of something more personally than professionally is how I see it.

Call it a "hobby" if it's only for fun/not any real returns -- and if there are returns, respect that it's a business of some form and not undermine all of their work just because it's not up to your pedantic specifications on what a business is supposed to be.

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