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Love the show but what irritates me the most...


OK, this is one of my favorite shows. I just want to start by saying that. Now...having said that...I am binging on this show right now, and I'm watching Claire and Phil Dunphy and wondering...

What the hell has happened to sitcoms anymore? I am a sitcom addict, particularly loving most any that have been made from the 1990s to present. But the one thing I have learned to expect from all sitcoms today is this:

The man is ALWAYS written to be a bumbling half-wit who can't do anything right, and the wife is always written as a glaring shrew of a woman who expects nothing but stupidity from her husband, and gets just that, usually because he's trying to side-step her moods and whims. Does this formula really work THAT well for a sitcom? And WHY? Try to take notice of this on most any sitcom you see and you'll notice it.

Modern Family (Claire and Phil)
Everybody Loves Raymond (Deborah and Ray)
King of Queens (Carrie and Doug)
Still Standing (Judy and Bill)
Reba (Cheyenne and Van)
Big Bang Theory (Bernadette and Howard)
Rules of Engagement (Audrey and Jeff)
Friends (Monica and Chandler)
2.5 Men (Judith and Alan -divorced, but you can still see it)
Old Christine (New Christine and Richard)
Yes Dear - appropriately titled to my point (Kim and Greg)
According to Jim (Cheryl and Jim)

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It's not really sitcoms that suffer, but also scripted shows as well.

For example, the character of Richard Castle in ABC's "Castle" (2009 - 2016) went from being a highly intellectual best-selling novelist with a witty partner in crime to a complete buffoon that caved into Detective Kate Beckett's demands like a child as the series progressed.

As per your list (the ones I have seen):

• "Modern Family" (Claire and Phil) - I wanna say Phil was written idiotic from the start as far as I can recall.

• "Reba" (Cheyenne and Van) - Never watched the series, but I remember Reba McEntire's music from the 1990s. Quite a few of her songs had something to do with men being fools.

• "The Big Bang Theory" (Bernadette and Howard) - Just like you stated above: "...a glaring shrew of a woman who expects nothing but stupidity from her husband, and gets just that, usually because he's trying to side-step her moods and whims."

• "Two and a Half Men" (Judith and Alan -divorced, but you can still see it) - Alan was somewhat levelheaded during the first two seasons. For some odd reason, he became this whiny, pathetic shell of his former self later on.

• "The New Adventures of Old Christine" (Christine and Richard) - Another one I never bothered with, but shocking to hear seeing as how Julia Louis-Dreyfus was on "Seinfeld" (1989 - 1998) which contained an ensemble of well-balanced characters that were pretty much equals.

One more I'd like to add:

• "Roseanne" (Dan and Roseanne) - Always hated the fact that Dan came crawling back to Roseanne. Then again, perhaps this isn't the greatest example seeing as how he did stand up for himself on numerous occasions.

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Not a new thing, nearly every sitcom since the early 90s has used the dumb, immature husband/smarter, bitchy wife formula. I think Home Improvement was when it started to get bad. Even in the 80s, Clair on The Cosby Show was a bitchy know it all who always thought she was right.

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Don't forget The Simpsons, Homer being an absolute dummy.. not sure why the couples always rely on that formula. On King of Queens I find Carrie's character was a dick most of the time

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The husband as a bumbling dope goes way back to the fifties. Ralph Kramden had one failed get rich quick scheme after another and Alice always let him have it with her well aimed zingers. But that was a funny show and Ralph wasn't dumb, just inept. His big ideas and plans weren't well thought out.

In The Big Bang Theory, Howard was written as socially inept from the start. He didn't have much success with women even when he was single. When he married Bernie, it was like they were recreating his relationship with his mother. Howard seems to need a strong, pushy (and shrewish) woman to run his personal life.

He's not dumb. After all he is an M.I.T graduate and a successful engineer. But on a social level, he lacks confidence and allows women to walk all over him.

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Home Improvement too, Tim was always breaking things and kind of immature while the wife was a smarter, nagging shrew. Clair on The Cosby Show, smug and always had to be right.

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This ranks right up there with the trope of a woman or young girl being able to fight and beat up a man that outweighs her by 100-200 pounds. The first time something like these tropes appeared in media, I'm sure it was funny or different or interesting because it was against type, but after a million times it's just lame and stupid not to mention lazy writing.

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The idiot, or incompetent, or whipped husband is a sitcom tradition that goes back over ninety years on radio. It continued on television starting in the late 1940s. It will be with us forever.

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It is made this way to appeal to female viewers, as they make up the majority of the viewerbase for these kinds of shows. Women love to see men being portrayed as intellectually inferior to them.

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Sounds like you need to find some better women to hang out with because most women, myself included, do not love or want to see men portrayed this way.

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Are you sure about that

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