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Could this film be any more shallow?


What was the point of this film, ultimately? I'm all for slice of life dramas that are more about characterization than heavy plot twists, but there needs to be some conflict in a film, even if subtle.

With this film it literally feels like the writers went out of their way to remove even the possibility of conflict, even where conflict would have naturally evolved:

- The only people who show even a hint of concern about the boys' too close relationship are the beautiful Julieta and Pedro. Both are conveniently killed off, on screen within seconds of each other. Thus completely removing the potential dramatic conflict of having Francisco move to Argentina to be with his dad, as the parents attempt to stop what they see burgeoning before them.

- The film skips the fraught teenager years, which is when the relationship would have begun to become sexualized, leaving the impression that the boys-turned-men just patiently waited until the day their parents died, or moved out, to succomb to their passion. Really?

- Alexandre might be the most unrealistic father in the history of cinema. So he just rolls over and quietly condones Francisco basically just totally taking over his son as his life partner? And this started as children when he tried to correct Thomas after he used his office supplied, with 12 year old Francisco stepping in and reprimanding HIM, proclaiming that Thomas is his forever, and...nothing. As adults he quietly moves out of his house because it's just time for them to be together and he shows ZERO conflict about his sons entering an obviously romantic and sexual relationship??

- What about Rosa? She's been there almost all their lives. Does she notice anything unusual? Who knows, the film totally skips her POV before just dropping her character completely after the boys grow up.

- There is no real exploration of the men's actual sexuality. They are heavily attracted to each other, for reasons that seem to go beyond mere sexuality. Both men are shown to obviously be attracted to women. Even when it seems to be that Francisco might be interested in the male DJ, it turns out it's the sexy Bianca he's attracted to. This is an interesting angle, the idea that the brothers might be hot for each other just because of who each is, not necessarily in line with their sexuality outside of the relationship. However this is totally dropped.

- What was the point of putting Thomas in Russia for 3 years if it generated NO conflict? A one sided video chat masturbation and a couple of teary moments in bed for Francisco don't do. We don't even get to see Thomas' life in Russia much or explore how he's handling the distance.

- The SWIM COACH seems to know about their relationship and not only is perfectly comfortable with it, he's JEALOUS? How typical is this? For someone even outside the family to just be totally fine with an incestious relationship between two brothers? Is this a typical occurrence?

- Worst of all? Neither brother is given even a single moment of conflict about the fact that he's in love with, and sexually attracted to, his own brother. Not a moment of concern, worry, anxiety, disgust, guilt, shame, nothing. Their becoming lovers is treated like it's a common, everyday thing that all brothers do.

Literally nothing gets in the way of their sappy fairytale. Not mother, not father(s), not society, not women, not death, not time, not separation, not moral dilemma, nothing. But even worse, it's not a story of a strange love somehow surviving all the odds, but rather a strange love that seems to exist outside of any reality, totally independent of the odds. There are Disney cartoon romances with more conflict and depth.

Also it feels like all the other unusual relationships in the film are sanitized of their conflict. Julietta is married to Alexandre, Pedro is also married, yet they still are obviously very attracted to each other and likely still in love; they sit staring longingly into each other's eyes. How do their respective spouses feel about this? We learn that Rosa was once with Pedro, before Julietta was, yet they're now the best of friends? Was there ever any tension there? Who know, nobody bothered to write any of that.

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You addressed everything that's wrong with this movie very eloquently. I agree 100?, well said.
I gave it a 2, by the way.

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this movie could be so much better if the brothers were sepparated when they were children (one of them going to live in argentina or something) and when they are adults they reunite, under the pressure of the family.

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The conflict wasn't on the screen. The conflict in this film is inherent in the viewer, and whether the viewer can be happy for them in the end, putting aside their own prejudices or rethinking their own prejudices. The conflict in this film, is the film itself.

It's time for a backlash against digital photography, motion pictures, music, sfx

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This just makes it a worse film since I felt nothing but annoyance at the poor story telling

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