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How an actor can make a movie fail


I've just arrived from the theatre and I am quite disappointed with this one.
Don't get me wrong, I have never seen Twilight so I knew nearly nothing about Pattinson's acting skills. Now the truth is that he was terrible and IMHO he was one of the main points that made the movie fail for me. He had zero expression on his face and we are led to accept that all women fall for him just for his looks when he shows no sensuality, charm or whatsoever!
The film has a quite enjoyable cinematography and the score is beautiful. Uma, Ricci and Scott Thomas deliver good performances but the rush of the plot and Pattinson's performance ruined the film.
I would like to know some opinions on this.

Last Movie Seen: Bel Ami (3/10)

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Your complaint would seem a lot more legitimate if you had used some excuse other than lack of expression. Even in the 2 minute trailer you can see dozens of expressions.
http://katy677.tumblr.com/post/17577223225/the-many-faces-of-georges-d uroy-bel-ami

And this guy disagrees, too:
http://www.eyeforfilm.co.uk/reviews.php?film_id=21237

For many, of course, the main reason to see this will be star Robert Pattinson. He certainly doesn't disappoint, but largely because he knows how to play an unlikeable character well, and it's anyone's guess how fans will react to that.

It's a popular conceit, and Georges is completely, hopelessly wrong - wide open to being taken advantage of by women far more sophisticated than he is - but it's how he comes to recognise this, and adapt, despite his limited intelligence and lack of any real talent, that makes up the meat of the film.

Because Pattinson isn't afraid to play weakness, mediocrity or petty spite, he is perfect in the role, less romantic hero than would-be Bullingdon boy. His ability to keep the audience interesed in his fate despite this illustrates real talent.

...Each woman gives it her all, seemingly relishing the chance to do something different. Wages for this film were apparently low - everyone was doing it for love, and it shows. This is a fantastic chance to see some of the industry's greatest talents at the top of their game.

...The costuming is also superb and well suited to the individual characters, not just getting by on being beautiful. All in all, it's a treat for fans of historical romance and a film with plenty of important, if unpleasant, things to say.
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Have you actually seen the film or just the trailer? Because even if I find his performance mediocre by the trailer it gets worse in the real picture. I could never stop reminding myself that he was trying to seem happy/sad/mad rather than believing that he was feeling the emotions. I was even feeling sorry for the actresses which I admire for managing to stand out such an amazing performance when they're co-actor was giving them nothing to hold on.
Btw, it isn't just the expression, also the way he delivers the lines. He says every single line in the same tone and when he is "mad" he screams them with no emotion at all.

Last Movie Seen: Tentação (4/10)

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"zero expression"? Hmmm. This with your mention of Twilight makes me think you didn't actually see Bel Ami. I apologize if you really did, but the lack of details in your review make me suspicious, as there are so many trolls about. Can you describe one scene (not in the trailers) where you liked or disliked something?

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Not everyone is going to like every movie. And bad reviews aren't stopping The Vow from making a bundle.
http://entertainment.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981 141265#.T0frkF1u1tk.twitter
by Page MacKinley:

Even before the stars of Bel Ami left the red carpet at its Berlinale première, a slew of corrosive reviews about the film—and in particular, Robert Pattinson—hit the web. Some were brutal, even venomous, while others loved this revisit to Maupassant's politically overtoned story about a twisted Casanova's social ascent.

Jennie Kermode, at Eye for Film, praising Pattinson's performance, wrote, "He certainly doesn't disappoint but largely because he knows how to play an unlikeable character." Reasoning that, "because Pattinson isn't afraid to play weakness, mediocrity or petty spite, he is perfect in the role," Kermode affirmed Pattinson's "ability to keep the audience interested in his [character's] fate," as illustrating "real talent."

Kermode, an insightful critic, is right. It also says something about Pattinson that he chose a role like Georges Duroy, a character whose capacity for exploitation is about as far from the self-sacrificing Edward Cullen as you can get. Brave enough not to want to stay safely within the genre that propelled him to uber fame, it's clear from recent comments made by Pattinson, that here is an actor chomping at the bit to explore new challenges—no matter how much incentive Lionsgate and Summit dangle.

Total Film Magazine gave, "full marks to Pattinson for tearing into his Edward Cullen persona with plenty of arse-bearing sex-scenes," while Cineuropa said the entire cast, "shine in this satire of a vile and corrupt society." Movieblog admitted to being, "pleasantly surprised" by the film, adding that [they], "don't subscribe to the idea that Pattinson is a weak actor, a piece of internet gospel that seems to spread around as part of the overwhelming Twilight hatedom." Rating the movie 3 out of a possible 4, perhaps the highest praise they offered was that it was "undoubtedly Pattinson's film."

Compared to reviews like these, THR critic, David Rooney's, swipes at Pattinson seem acutely over-personalised. Misreading Pattinson's non-histrionic interpretation of Duroy's walking storm personality, as "one-dimensional characterization," Rooney, settles for easy jabs instead of insight. Retooling Uma Thurman's (Madeleine) film line to Duroy—"I had no conception of the depths of your emptiness"—Rooney uses this as a blunt instrument to beat Pattinson with.

Rooney snarks, "The assessment is aimed at the venal character [Duroy's] but applies equally to the charisma-free performance, in which there's nobody home." Variety's Justin Chang, echoed with, "It's one thing to embody a moral void, quite another to look merely vacant, and in scene after scene, Pattinson registers a visible strain in negotiating the character's shifts from slick, droll charm to animal-like desperation and thwarted rage."

MovieLine's, Stephanie Zacharek, piled on with, "Poor Robert Pattinson. The weight of proving himself, in a movie that doesn't have the words 'Twilight' and 'Saga' in the title, is shaping up to be heavier than a vampire's curse." More condescension followed. "Pattinson isn't half-bad. He doesn't overreach, which perhaps saves him from embarrassment."

Sight and Sound complimented Pattinson's "alert amusedly insinuating performance," while straying into the ludicrous when it declared, "in close-up [Pattinson's] face tends to lapse into the bovine." A curious observation to make about an actor habitually accused of being "too beautiful" to convince in gritty roles.

So who's right? The "nay's" or the "yay's?" And why are critics often so divided about Pattinson? Routinely pilloried, it seems it's become fashionable to dismiss this young actor's abilities. Could it be that some critics are suffering from a case of inverted snobbery—assuming that the more commercially successful an actor is, their credibility is automatically checked at the door?

One can clearly see this assumption in the self-invited psych consult Zacharek gives Pattinson, when she says, "He's trying so hard—why can't he use those lizardlike eyes, that cat-that-ate-the-canary smile, in the service of making us forget who he is? Maybe it's because he can't forget who he is. And that's the stiffest, tightest collar any young actor can wear."

Except the collar isn't Pattinson's. Critics often overestimate how much actors cling to their roles, even the ones others define them by—maybe especially those. It's doubtful whether, today, Harrison Ford gives Hans Solo a moment's thought. Yet for successive generations of children, Solo's character has become a cultural fix-point. It's likely Pattinson feels the same way about Edward Cullen.


David Cronenberg, who directed Pattinson in Cosmopolis, when asked in a 2011 interview with Moviefone why he cast Pattinson, said, "You have a young actor who's found success with a franchise just like Keira [Knightley] did with Pirates of the Caribbean, who's underrated because of that. In each case, they're too pretty and too successful so people are jealous. As a result, people assume that they can't possibly be good actors."

Since that interview, Cronenberg has gone on record, telling MTV in 2011 that Pattinson's performance in Cosmopolis was "sensational." This veteran director's verdict? "He's a great actor. It's obvious in the movie. It's not like maybe yes, maybe no. It's obvious."

And so, to Bel Ami himself. Pattinson imbues Duroy with an array of emotions. Confusion, as he negotiates the alien social circles he forced his way into; rage, at the emotional shut-out he endures in his mostly frigid marriage to Madeleine; disgust, for the needy Madame Rousset and her daughter (Scott Thomas and Grainger); and real affection—if not quite love—for Clotilde (Christina Ricci), the one character that comes closest to understanding Duroy.

A sumptuous romp through belle époque Paris, undeniably the film delivers a rich visual hit to the senses. Pulsing with sensuality, it revels in exposing the corruption at the core of its anti-hero, and those around him. Where it doesn't work, is in its—at times—serrated joins between scenes and reductive screenplay. But gosh, it's fun. Unashamed, balls-out, sexy, fun.

As for the Pattinson-bashing; for this maturing actor, he might find it worthwhile remembering his own words about his younger self: "If someone insulted me, I would get ten years of ambition out of it." Those numbers may have grown. But so has Robert Pattinson.
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Curzon Street, you make your point brilliantly, but overplaying it makes you seem obsessive and that undermines it all.

That said, I hate it when IMDB message people get on here and, anonymously, say impossibly rude things that are supposed to be critical statements. These folks want to provoke more than they want to express ... anything.

This actor could not play all those crazy scenes in the TWILIGHT movies if he couldn't, you know, act. Watch him next to wolf boy, and you see what I mean. I thought his turn as a young Salvador Dali proved that he had something. That movie didn't really work, but his Dali was a convincing demonstration of craft that went well over and above the merely functional.

It appears the actor has taken a drastic look at the movies he's made in the wake of TWILIGHT fame, and is searching out roles that give him a wider range of opportunities, and the kind of experience that counts. Experience that adds up to something more then just the Byronic lover boy type that the Hollywood handlers would over and over again cram him into if he didn't branch out.

Regarding the person who claimed he has no expression, the comment itself is proof that the writer has no idea what the hell he/she is saying.

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Yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on that you're unaware of. There are certain trolls and haters who make it their business to go around IMDB and start troll threads just for fun and lately one has been spending all day and night getting legitimate discussion threads deleted by making false Abuse reports.

Myself and several other posters have an ongoing communication with the Admins at IMDB, and although they keep suspending this troll's account, he just opens more sock accounts and goes back at it.

So what I've been reposting today is just stuff that got deleted overnight. Another poster who started the Costume thread discovered this morning that everything she'd posted for the past 10 days had been deleted, and it was all very detail specific about the historical aspects of the costumes in this film.

There were several legitimate discussion threads on this board going back to Feb., from people who had seen the preview screenings in Belguim and who were at the premiere in Berlin, but of course the troll is trying to kill all discussion about this movie, so those got deleted.

Crazy people with insane vendettas are far more obsessed than film fans who merely want to talk about a movie. And as you can see, since so many real threads have been deleted, what's left is 75 percent of threads started by trolls.
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Would like to know - in a private message, perhaps - some of the troll names you're talking about.

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nfaust, I don't want to intervene into the convo between you and Curzon. I'd just like to say that, sadly enough, everything she has explained to you is true.
I was one of those who has seen Bel ami at its first screening in Belgium, but everything I and others have written about is deleted.
The Imdb board of Robert Pattinson get threads deleted on a daily base.
I don't know anything about trolls and their behaviors, Curzon is much more experted in this material than me.
I can't get used though at the rude, offending comments I read too often for my taste. These threads aren't deleted of course :)

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Where are the deleted comments? I don't see any in this message thread. About the rudeness. Some feel that being anonymous gives them the power to express things in ways they would never express face to face. It's one thing to offer a contrary opinion, explaining why and how you arrived at it. Doing that is a process of sharing.

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Curzon can tell you more about the deleted threads.
I know i've written about the movie and it disappeared.
On Rob's board it happens on a daily base. I like to read the thread 'Rob tweets of the day' or something like that and almost every day I see they had to restart the thread. 'Cause that's what the regulars do: they save the info and restart the thread everytime again.
Maybe it happens here too. But again, Curzon knows more about it.

One of the goals of message boards is, apart from the info, to give people from all over the world the opportunity to discuss topics about the movie or the actor/actress and to learn from each other in all respect. Internet is an ideal instrument if treated in a appropriate way, which often isn't and that's sad.

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changing your facial expression is not the same as expressing emotions.

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changing your facial expression is not the same as expressing emotions.

And just delivering lines is not acting , something is just consistently underwhelmingly lacking in Pattison .

Whenever we have seen Rob fawned over at awards shows , interviews or just out & about persued by papparzzi he is always exhibiting the mannerisms & displaying the same facial expressions we are given in his films only slightly more forced . One always is caught percieving this as only "acting" , just delivering lines, in rolls made featuring a new "hearthrob" & relying on sympathetic identification for the female audience's latest male ingenue .

BUt for a succssful career to transcend the "pretty boy" status and obtain some pivotal defining break out performances , think one will be waiting a long long time for Pattison , he just doesn't have it in him . I would say that this was probably one of his better performances to date showing some range , for one would expect with such an excellent supporting cast to help him along . And professionally he will need to be given many more opps like this to either find his passion , or not , which will leave us with just a string of future performances just not captivating enough to sustain interest in him .

What was that tennis star again , the pretty one ?

Oh , yes Anna Kournikova , that's our Rob !













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Have you actually seen the film or just the trailer? Because even if I find his performance mediocre by the trailer it gets worse in the real picture. I could never stop reminding myself that he was trying to seem happy/sad/mad rather than believing that he was feeling the emotions.


Your review is quite similar to the THR and Variety reviews. I find it hart to watch an actor who is so obvious in "trying to act" instead of getting lost in the scenes.

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Some advice to you miguel-2. No matter how you describe RP acting there are going to be fans of his that will see it as an attack on the actor and could care less if you are making valid points on his performance. I too felt that his character was to bland for him to be such a dynamic attraction for the type of women he was bedding.

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Not everyone is going to like every movie. And bad reviews aren't stopping The Vow from making a bundle.
http://entertainment.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981 141265#.T0frkF1u1tk.twitter
by Page MacKinley:

Even before the stars of Bel Ami left the red carpet at its Berlinale première, a slew of corrosive reviews about the film—and in particular, Robert Pattinson—hit the web. Some were brutal, even venomous, while others loved this revisit to Maupassant's politically overtoned story about a twisted Casanova's social ascent.

Jennie Kermode, at Eye for Film, praising Pattinson's performance, wrote, "He certainly doesn't disappoint but largely because he knows how to play an unlikeable character." Reasoning that, "because Pattinson isn't afraid to play weakness, mediocrity or petty spite, he is perfect in the role," Kermode affirmed Pattinson's "ability to keep the audience interested in his [character's] fate," as illustrating "real talent."

Kermode, an insightful critic, is right. It also says something about Pattinson that he chose a role like Georges Duroy, a character whose capacity for exploitation is about as far from the self-sacrificing Edward Cullen as you can get. Brave enough not to want to stay safely within the genre that propelled him to uber fame, it's clear from recent comments made by Pattinson, that here is an actor chomping at the bit to explore new challenges—no matter how much incentive Lionsgate and Summit dangle.

Total Film Magazine gave, "full marks to Pattinson for tearing into his Edward Cullen persona with plenty of arse-bearing sex-scenes," while Cineuropa said the entire cast, "shine in this satire of a vile and corrupt society." Movieblog admitted to being, "pleasantly surprised" by the film, adding that [they], "don't subscribe to the idea that Pattinson is a weak actor, a piece of internet gospel that seems to spread around as part of the overwhelming Twilight hatedom." Rating the movie 3 out of a possible 4, perhaps the highest praise they offered was that it was "undoubtedly Pattinson's film."

Compared to reviews like these, THR critic, David Rooney's, swipes at Pattinson seem acutely over-personalised. Misreading Pattinson's non-histrionic interpretation of Duroy's walking storm personality, as "one-dimensional characterization," Rooney, settles for easy jabs instead of insight. Retooling Uma Thurman's (Madeleine) film line to Duroy—"I had no conception of the depths of your emptiness"—Rooney uses this as a blunt instrument to beat Pattinson with.

Rooney snarks, "The assessment is aimed at the venal character [Duroy's] but applies equally to the charisma-free performance, in which there's nobody home." Variety's Justin Chang, echoed with, "It's one thing to embody a moral void, quite another to look merely vacant, and in scene after scene, Pattinson registers a visible strain in negotiating the character's shifts from slick, droll charm to animal-like desperation and thwarted rage."

MovieLine's, Stephanie Zacharek, piled on with, "Poor Robert Pattinson. The weight of proving himself, in a movie that doesn't have the words 'Twilight' and 'Saga' in the title, is shaping up to be heavier than a vampire's curse." More condescension followed. "Pattinson isn't half-bad. He doesn't overreach, which perhaps saves him from embarrassment."

Sight and Sound complimented Pattinson's "alert amusedly insinuating performance," while straying into the ludicrous when it declared, "in close-up [Pattinson's] face tends to lapse into the bovine." A curious observation to make about an actor habitually accused of being "too beautiful" to convince in gritty roles.

So who's right? The "nay's" or the "yay's?" And why are critics often so divided about Pattinson? Routinely pilloried, it seems it's become fashionable to dismiss this young actor's abilities. Could it be that some critics are suffering from a case of inverted snobbery—assuming that the more commercially successful an actor is, their credibility is automatically checked at the door?

One can clearly see this assumption in the self-invited psych consult Zacharek gives Pattinson, when she says, "He's trying so hard—why can't he use those lizardlike eyes, that cat-that-ate-the-canary smile, in the service of making us forget who he is? Maybe it's because he can't forget who he is. And that's the stiffest, tightest collar any young actor can wear."

Except the collar isn't Pattinson's. Critics often overestimate how much actors cling to their roles, even the ones others define them by—maybe especially those. It's doubtful whether, today, Harrison Ford gives Hans Solo a moment's thought. Yet for successive generations of children, Solo's character has become a cultural fix-point. It's likely Pattinson feels the same way about Edward Cullen.


David Cronenberg, who directed Pattinson in Cosmopolis, when asked in a 2011 interview with Moviefone why he cast Pattinson, said, "You have a young actor who's found success with a franchise just like Keira [Knightley] did with Pirates of the Caribbean, who's underrated because of that. In each case, they're too pretty and too successful so people are jealous. As a result, people assume that they can't possibly be good actors."

Since that interview, Cronenberg has gone on record, telling MTV in 2011 that Pattinson's performance in Cosmopolis was "sensational." This veteran director's verdict? "He's a great actor. It's obvious in the movie. It's not like maybe yes, maybe no. It's obvious."

And so, to Bel Ami himself. Pattinson imbues Duroy with an array of emotions. Confusion, as he negotiates the alien social circles he forced his way into; rage, at the emotional shut-out he endures in his mostly frigid marriage to Madeleine; disgust, for the needy Madame Rousset and her daughter (Scott Thomas and Grainger); and real affection—if not quite love—for Clotilde (Christina Ricci), the one character that comes closest to understanding Duroy.

A sumptuous romp through belle époque Paris, undeniably the film delivers a rich visual hit to the senses. Pulsing with sensuality, it revels in exposing the corruption at the core of its anti-hero, and those around him. Where it doesn't work, is in its—at times—serrated joins between scenes and reductive screenplay. But gosh, it's fun. Unashamed, balls-out, sexy, fun.

As for the Pattinson-bashing; for this maturing actor, he might find it worthwhile remembering his own words about his younger self: "If someone insulted me, I would get ten years of ambition out of it." Those numbers may have grown. But so has Robert Pattinson.
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Philippa Kevan ‏ @Phillykevan
@Flinty33 sort your life out! #mess also #Rpatz is amazing in Bel ami! Kelly agrees

Yas W ‏ @thadd31
Good adaptation of #Maupassant Bel Ami, except Uma Thurman couldn't decide to use a british or american accent all mingled up with french

Stacey Fields ‏ @Chezstacey
@keambi0111 Movie. Uma. Pattinson. Period piece with lots of indiscretion.
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Haters gonna troll. Too bad they have no real platform.

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With that, check out my early list below and tell me what you think. Who am I missing that should be considered? Who on this list doesn't stand a chance? I'll explore the rest of the above-the-line categories soon enough and hopefully by the end of the month we'll have a full batch of early predictions ready to role, just before this year's Cannes Film Festival.

Ben Affleck (Argo)
Bradley Cooper (The Silver Linings Playbook)
Daniel Day-Lewis (Lincoln)
Leonardo DiCaprio (The Great Gatsby) *
Clint Eastwood (Trouble With The Curve)
Jamie Foxx (Django Unchained)
Joseph Gordon-Levitt (Looper)
Ryan Gosling (Only God Forgives)
Ryan Gosling (The Place Beyond The Pines)
Tom Hardy (Lawless)
John Hawkes (The Surrogate)
Philip Seymour Hoffman (The Master)
Oscar Isaac (Inside Llewlyn Davis)
Hugh Jackman (Les Miserables)
Tobey Maguire (The Great Gatsby)
Bill Murray (Hyde Park on Hudson)
Brad Pitt (Killing Them Softly)
Robert Pattinson (Cosmopolis)
Robert Redford (The Company You Keep)
Terrence Stamp (Song for Marion)
Denzel Washington (Flight)

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You know you linked a page that shows "many faces", and all save one are the exact same look. ;)

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Pattinson needs to do a film where he plays a serial killer, a Ted Bundy type. Or a "Monster" film (Charlize Theron) where he is made ugly with make up and weightgain - seems that is one way that beautiful actors get some respect although Brando (for example) never needed to do this.

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Its the overwhelming success Twilight has that makes him the centre of Jealousy because most Critics and some Haters can not get over the Fact that he actually portrayed Edward exactly how SM wrote him


That does not make sense at all. I hope you are just trolling and don't actually believe this.

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Flirt44, I have seen the movie and I could reply to the remarks about Rob's acting but I know it has no sense. Some just show up to support the critics on Rob, they don't want to discuss this at all.

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It's almost by the book to have someone mention jealousy. Shame their post has been deleted... I've made a small point to e-slap anyone who mentions the words "jealous(y)" in response to a criticsm againgt Rob.

"Well I didn't expect a kind-of Spanish Inquisition!" - Monty Python

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I think a lot of people are gonna ruin it for themselves.

One of my friends who hates the Twilight movies and Edward then is going into the movie Theatre expecting the worst from Robert Pattinson.
She even admitted herself that she's too focused on whatever Rob does and keeps compairing him to Edward... so.

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lol umadbro?

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I hate to say it, but, I have to agree with you. Such a "predisposition" was extremely eveident in some reviews.

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True, Sammie, I've read most of reviews until now and almost everytime a reviewer refers to Twilight in his first sentences, I know it's not gonna end well :)

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I thought Rob Pattinson was absolutely fantastic in the role. He was perfect for it. He portrayed Georges' naivety very well and managed to draw sympathy despite his character's many flaws - not many actors could do that convincingly. I could see why women would fall for him so easily but I think the film was a bit rushed in that aspect and didn't show enough scenes of him with the women.

So yes, I agree it was rushed and that detracted from the film but I can't find fault with Pattinson's performance. Each to their own, though.

People who say nothing is impossible haven't tried nailing jelly to a tree.

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exactly. with another male lead, this movie has the potential to be a LOT better. his lack of expressions made the film unbelievable. i mean, all those women fell in love with him almost at sight, did a lot for him and all i could think of was "really? for him?". he had no charm whatsoever.

nice to see someone agrees.

>> there. i said it. <<

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I was very surprised to read your thoughts on Bel Ami. For me it was the subtle twinkle in Robert Pattinson's eyes and the occasional raised eyebrow when the next opportunity came along that made this a success. I thought long before its release that the role could be overdone, hammed up if you like but for me he played it perfectly.

Opinions it seems vary widely on this, it is such a shame that the genre is no longer a crowd puller. People seem to love or hate it.

I agree that the ladies were well cast and for me the weakest of all was Uma Thurman. I thought that KST was excellent in her role, loved her mourning at the wedding and I thought CR was superb as Clothilde.

Maybe Mr Pattinson was too subtle for you, for me he played it just right.

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I agree. For me, RP and KST were the best, while Uma wasn't as good as I expected (but not bad). The movie was a disappointment, though. Too much abrupt cuts on the scenes, too much of that anoying cheesy music... the director clearly didn't know what he was doing.

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I fail to understand why people give this guy a break. Who knows, he might surprise me by his performance in the upcoming Cronenberg Film "Cosmopolis", but before that happens, to me Robert Pattinson is a sad excuse for an actor who should stick to inane films such as "Twilight" and "Remember Me" to keep his gig going. That is as far as his talent would allow him to go. It should come as no surprise when he ruins a film with potential and especially when playing a lead.

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Why do you think he wasn't good in Bel Ami? I saw the movie. He did well.

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Robert Pattinson is certainly struggling, OP.

He has not been successful outside of 'Twilight', and if he doesn't get some better projects under his belt soon, his time may pass. The critics have pretty much panned all of his movies, including this one. 'Remember Me' was not that successful either, and 'Water For Elephants' was also considered a disappointment.

It also looks like 'Cosmopolis' isn't going to do too well either. But it's most obvious in the case of 'Bel Ami'. This movie was made a couple of years ago and yet it has sat around on the shelf struggling to get released until now. Why?

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I guess you've missed the fact that Cosmopolis got a majority of good reviews, even the Guardian acknowledges that:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/picture/2012/jun/09/guide-cover-robe rt-pattinson
Meet Robert Pattinson

Eric Packer, the character Pattison plays in Cosmopolis is not stupid. The film, an adaptation of Don DeLillo's 2003 novel set mostly in Packer's limousine, concerns a financial whiz-kid who is either having sex, having a finger inserted into his bottom (an on-the-move prostate exam), engaging in lengthy overblown monologues, losing vast sums of money, dodging an assassin, seeking a haircut, or all of the above. The film premiered at this year's Cannes film festival. The majority of reviews have been positive, particularly in Pattinson's favour, but frankly, it could have gone either way. It is not the most easily palatable of films. ###

It's a Cronenberg film, it's not designed to appeal to the mass market. As for Pattinson struggling, he has 6 new projects in the works, most actors would give their eye teeth to be "struggling" like he is.

And Bel Ami is a period drama, also not designed to be a blockbuster. Do you know how many period dramas they make every year? A handful. They aren't popular with the general public, investors won't gamble on them. Pattinson did the movie because he always like the book. The script had been languishing for over 5 years before he became attached and they were suddenly able to get funding. Same for Cosmopolis. The producer, Paul Branco has given more than one interview where he talked about how easily the money fell into place as soon as Pattinson became attached. He's bankable, not struggling. These films may not be box office gold, but they wouldn't even have been made if he didn't want to participate in them.
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I guess you've missed the fact that Cosmopolis got a majority of good reviews


Actually, Rotten Tomatoes have it 52% Rotten so majority is overstatement from you as usual.

Metacritic even had an article about the film and said it got mixed reviews.


Prior to Cannes, the questions surrounding David Cronenberg’s adaptation of Don DeLillo’s novel Cosmopolis concerned Robert Pattinson’s performance and how Cronenberg would bring DeLillo’s words to life. The answers seem to be a mixed bag. IndieWire claims, “Pattinson holds his own without exactly broadening his range,” and The Playlist calls him “surprisingly adequate.” The A.V. Club likes his “perfectly robotic” performance in a film that is better the “more abstract and overtly stylized” it becomes. Variety embraces the film’s spare, episodic narrative and dialogue that teems with heady ideas,” but THR finds it “lifeless, stagey and lacking a palpable subversive pulse,” and The Guardian agrees, calling it “stilted, self-important and dismayingly shallow.” Oh well, maybe Cronenberg and Pattinson’s next project will be more appealing to critics.

http://www.metacritic.com/feature/cannes-film-festival-reviews-2012


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Rotten Tomatoes isn't loading the good reviews, there are over a dozen, published since Cannes, from critics like Variety that they haven't loaded.

It's not an overstatement from me, I'm quoting reputable sources. If you have a problem, take it up with The Guardian, they're the ones who say it, along with this round up:
http://www.inquisitr.com/242559/cosmopolis-roars-into-cannes-first-wav e-majority-robert-pattinson-nailed-it/

It was one most anticipated films at the Cannes Film Festival this year. And today, the metaphorical limo in town belongs to Robert Pattinson, leading man in David Cronenberg’s Cosmopolis.

A early press screening was packed to the rafters, Film Festival News tweeting “Cosmopolis has the most buzz & people hunting for tickets I’ve seen/heard for any one film at [Cannes] this year”.

But, of course, the biggest question was: what did the critics make of it? As The Independent’s Jonathan Romney put it, “will it be a joyride or will we wish Robert Pattinson had taken the subway?”

Positive reviews from several European magazines have already surfaced in the last two weeks. But today is the acid test...

Variety’s Justin Chang lauds Cronenberg’s *coolly corrosive allegory” of a technologically fixated, corrupted world, spotlighting Pattinson’s performance as “excellent”. Then, goes one better, proclaiming the Brit actor an “indispensable asset.”

Catherine Bray, editor of Film4 Online enthused ”Cosmopolis&#8236; film of Cannes&#8236; for me.Extraordinary psychological and sensual immersion in the psychosis of capitalism; Pattinson brilliant.” Bray’s later review defining it as a “coming together of source, director and star with a relevance that rarely occurs in cinema.”

Rolling Stone (Italy) showered adjectives and a 5/5 rating, crowning it “a masterpiece.”

Little White Lies called Pattinson’s Eric Packer “magnetic. [This] is his best performance to date by some considerable margin. Yes, even better than Remember Me”, while Simon Abrams demanded that the jury “give ‘em the Palme! A.”


A sentiment echoed by The Guardian’s Xan Brooks, rhapsodizing that he was “blown away by Cosmopolis at Cannes. A film of cool, diamond brilliance. Perfectly fitted, a tale for the times. Note to jurors: this one.”

In a subsequent review, Brooks exults “Cosmopolis, praise be, is flat-out marvellous, a 21st-century American horror story, haunted by “the glow of cyber-capitalism”. David Cronenberg does an elegant job of converting Don DeLillo’s chilly, mysterious prose to the screen, while the performances have just the right wonky, off-kilter intensity.”

Filmoria‘s forensically detailed, yet oddly moving review identified Pattinson as “the film’s true driving force”. For Chris Haydon, “everything Cosmopolis desires to express” came from the “utterly fearless, audacious and sizzling performance” Pattinson gave.

For a film weighed with so much expectation differences of opinion are to be expected. But, by far the majority of critics were agreed on one thing: Together, with an outstanding supporting cast, Cronenberg and Pattinson not only met the challenge of realizing DeLillo’s presciently, accurate worldvision – they exceeded it. Palme d’Or or not, that achievement stands.


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http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/picture/2012/jun/09/guide-cover-robe rt-pattinson
Eric Packer, the character Pattison plays in Cosmopolis is not stupid. The film, an adaptation of Don DeLillo's 2003 novel set mostly in Packer's limousine, concerns a financial whiz-kid who is either having sex, having a finger inserted into his bottom (an on-the-move prostate exam), engaging in lengthy overblown monologues, losing vast sums of money, dodging an assassin, seeking a haircut, or all of the above. The film premiered at this year's Cannes film festival. The majority of reviews have been positive, particularly in Pattinson's favour, but frankly, it could have gone either way. It is not the most easily palatable of films.

Of the 20 films in competition at Cannes, it came in 5th in good reviews.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmdgVGA_rtJzdHhmRmRtejhte Gs1V0NiWVJhTWJOUlE#gid=0

1 "HOLY MOTORS(Leos Carax)"
2 "IN ANOTHER COUNTRY(Hong Sangsoo)"
3 "LIKE SOMEONE IN LOVE(Abbas Kiarostami)"
4 "MOONRISE KINGDOM(Wes Anderson)"
5 "COSMOPOLIS(David Cronenberg)"
6 "AMOUR (Michael Haneke)"
7 "YOU HAVE SEEN NOTHING YET(Alain Resnais)"
8 "MUD (Jeff Nichols)"
9 "IN THE FOG (Sergei Loznitsa)"
10 "BEYOND THE HILLS(Cristian Mungiu)"
11 "PARADISE : Love(Ulrich Seidl)"
12 "KILLING THEM SOFTLY(Andrew Dominik)"
13 "REALITY(Matteo Garrone)"
14 "POST TENEBRAS LUX(Carlos Reygadas)"
15 "LAWLESS(John Hillcoat)"
16 "RUST AND BONE (Jacques Audiard)"
17 "AFTER THE BATTLE(Yousry Nasrallah)"
18 "THE ANGELS' SHARE(Ken Loach)"
19 "THE HUNT(Thomas Vinterberg)"
20 "ON THE ROAD(Walter Salles)"
21 "TASTE OF MONEY(Im Sangsoo)"
22 "THE PAPERBOY(Lee Daniels)"
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http://shareddarkness.com/2012/06/09/bel-ami.aspx

^ Yeah, sounds... NOT so good.

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