This film looked so good.
Until I had a horrible feeling come over me, PLEASE someone tell me he KILLS the nazi.....
anyone who has seen it.
Is the nazi alive.
Does penn kill him?
This movie looked sooooooooooooooooo goooooooooooooood sooooo original, until i knew the plot and just feel deep down in my gut it has the oh so typical ending of the character forgiving the nazi or letting him live....
thank you in advance!
It's not a black and white answer to your question. The movie is more sophisticated than that.
shareIts a very black and white question. Does the Nazi die during the film. Was it due too actions taken by sean penns character.? Very very black and white.
shareI said the answer is not black and white (not your question).
shareWell if you want it black and white then no, the Nazi doesn't die in the movie.
shareTYPICAL.
Thank you for the spoiler! :)
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What is really idiotic is that he wants him dead! Really? is that what it should be about? a man has to be killed for a crime 70 years after he committed it? will that bring back the people the Nazi's killed? Go read Crime and Punishment by Dostoyevsky to get some insight, I am sorry it doesn't have any car chases or naked chicks but just try, okay buddy?
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Sounds like the people calling the OP an idiot are bigger idiots themselves. Or maybe even retarded
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It's not about the outcome but about the journey.
This is an arthouse movie not "Hellraiser:I am deader" that you seem to prefer ;)
Yes in "Hellraiser" it's pretty straight foreward ,everybody dies... go watch that ;)
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I CAN EAT STEAK AND CHEESE CAKE AND ENJOY BOTH YOU *beep* IF YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT WATCHING A MOVIE MAKES YOU SMART OR DEEP, YOUR A *beep* C U N T.
shareby thebuttercreamgang 22 minutes ago (Tue Feb 21 2012 18:33:08)
I CAN EAT STEAK AND CHEESE CAKE AND ENJOY BOTH YOU *beep* IF YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT WATCHING A MOVIE MAKES YOU SMART OR DEEP, YOUR A *beep* C U N T.
IM SURE YOU DID. ENJOY LIVING IN A FALSE SENSE OF INTELLIGENCE WHILE WATCHING YOUR ART HOUSE FLICKS, YOUR SO SMART. AND NOT THE LEAST BIT VAPID OR DISILLUSIONED. :)IM ALL SMILES
shareBUT, it's not what you think. If fact, he's not what you probably think. The situation is not what you'd probably think either. And no one necessarily forgives anyone for anything.
That said, don't waste your time on this one. Too artsy and confusing. The Nazi story is barely there and just a hiccup at the end.
No!!!! Why would you think they're messing with you?
I'll tell you how the movie ends. It turns out that Sean Penn's father, the dead gentleman that we believed to be Jewish, in reality was a Nazi officer who forged his identity and has posed for Jewish ever since.
On the other hand, the Nazi Sean Penn looks for throughout the movie, turns out to be a Polish Jew who escaped from Auschwitz who came to America as well. He was tortured and humiliated by Sean Penn's dad. Not the other way around.
After he finds out, Sean Penn and the not-anymore-Nazi (a gentleman in his 90's) escape to Brazil together and start a new life together. After a couple of years Sean Penn gets complete sexual reconstructive surgery and becomes a woman, has a kid from his 90 years old partner, and they live happily together forever and ever.
Why the *beep* would you want people to spoil the movie for you? Watch it. If you can't wait until it gets released in the US, get it in DVD from Italy.
Cheers
The previous comment was filled with typos (I prefer lapsus calami) and repetetions. Pardon me: I was quite tired.
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Why are yous still talking about this when filompra told you what happened?
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SPOILERS-- Seriously, SPOILERS
To the OP- Even though it looks like it, this isn't some cheesy coming of age flick where the we find the true meaning of forgiveness.
Sean Penn's character confronts the old nazi, who tells him in detail how he would humiliate his father at the concentration camp.
They don't show how it came about, but they show the end result of Penn's character getting revenge SPOILER- by forcing the now blind nazi to walk out of his trailer naked into the snow.-SPOILER
Then they leave. We don't know if the nazi dies from the cold or if he finds his way back or not but considering that he's blind he probably stumbled around out there for a long time.
I assumed that was salt, not ice, as they're in the Utah salt flats, as there's no snow or indeed bad weather elsewhere in the film. But I might be wrong. I often am.
shareNot this time, it was salt alright.
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He acted like it was snow, but that would be too cruel even in a movie. Thanks for clearing this up.
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It is easy to confuse it with snow, since there is a huge, snowy mountain range right behind him. The director could've selected a shot without showing the snowy mountains. MANY people thought it was snow.
Regardless, the 95 year old, skinny, blind man is naked in cold weather.
I thought it was snow as well, and I'm sure the director was aware that many viewers would be unfamiliar with Utah's weather patterns and would probably make that connection.
The ending is indeed open-ended and surreal. I couldn't imagine the elderly blind man surviving out there for long, but on the other hand, I couldn't imagine the elderly blind man living alone in such an isolated area to begin with.