What is the dialogue being exchanged? It was something about designated driver and i didn't get how that connected with him. was it because charlie got in that car crash? and what was that line about dental insurance and being "certifiable"? why did charlie feel the need to hit him?
hah sorry if i'm a little slow but it was bothering me and i wasnt paying attention during the movie much
Toy 3-9/10
Just go see the movie again. It will be good for you. It is one of the most satisfying scenes in the movie.
You--lighten up. You--big trouble. You--get in the car.share
haha yeah. You just need to pay attention to the WHOLE movie next time. Don't worry you wont be confused, it will make sense!
shareI don't want to see it again because I didn't like the movie. I just want to know what happened in that scene to make it so significant.
Toy 3-9/10
How could u not like the movie?? I thought it was a great comparison to the book, Efron portrait the character beautifully I almost cried. The guy says there isn't a high demand of him being the designated driver being a smart-ass jerk to the accident where his brother died. It hurt Charlie, that's why he was a smart-ass back and asked about the dental insurance so he could punch the *beep* out of his jaw. For the one who thought it was "racist": I was also satisfied that he punched him, and I also noticed that the "jerk" of the movie was a black-man but I didn't think it was racist, just coincidence. If it was racist blame the producers not the viewers for enjoying him punch the *beep* (the character not actor)...
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As others have said, go see the movie again and pay close attention.
To answer though; yes, it is linked to Charlie's accident. The guy was being insensitive to what happened to Charlie. Charlie asked about dental insurance in a smart ass way as he was gonna punch him in the jaw.
dental insurance: I thought it was just Charlie being thoughtful!
You--lighten up. You--big trouble. You--get in the car.share
I haven't seen the film, but I'm guessing purely from seeing the trailer that the other guy was taking the mick out of Charlie that he shouldn’t be driving or be the 'designated driver', as he was the driver in the car accident that killed his brother.
Slightly off the subject, but I'm a little disappointed that the film has received such a low rating, as I was outside the bar when that scene was being filmed when I was holidaying in Steveston, Vancouver last year. Think I'll see it on DVD when it's finally released here in the UK! :-S
Many people think the movie is good--and many reviews rate it much higher than the IMDb rating.
You--lighten up. You--big trouble. You--get in the car.share
No, no! Don't let the 'professional critics' get you down. Go see it and judge for yourself. I think the general consensus of those who have seen it and give it a chance end up liking the film.
shareCharlie hit the guy in the bar scene because the guy said that no one will ask him to be a designated for them which is directed to the fact that Charlie got in a car wreck with Sam who passed away. So, it got Charlie mad that someone would direct a joke at his younger brothers death. Apparently Charlie didn't "get over" his death otherwise he would've just walked away from the problem instead of acting in anger by punching him.
shareThe guy was being deliberately insensitive to Zefron's tragedy, and that is why Zefron knocked him out. Basically, Zefron refused an alcoholic drink, so the guy asked him why not, since Zefron wasn't driving. The guy then proceeded to make a tasteless joke about Zefron being an unreliable designated driver anyway (referring to Zefron killing his brother in a car accident). This made Zefron angry, and so he grabbed him by the shirt, but soon appeared to calm down when his friends intervened.
Zefron then decided to pretend to be amicable towards the guy by asking about his job at "Golden Sacks", alluding to the prestigious investment bank 'Goldman Sachs' where the man supposedly works. Zefron asked about the financial crisis, and whether that had resulted in many redundancies at the bank. The guy replied that it had, but arrogantly stated that it was a good excuse to "weed out the weak" within the bank (unlike the man himself, who is supposedly a valued employee and therefore did not lose his job). Finally, Zefron inquired whether the bank still offered the guy free dental, as one of the perks of the job. When the guy responded in the affirmative "yes", Zefron quickly capitalised on his chance and he punched him in the face (possibly at his jaw, so as to target his teeth). Zefron has therefore not calmed down after all, but rather pretended to be friendly in order to lure the guy into a false sense of security and catch him by surprise.
The scene also highlights a relevant point in the film, that Zefron used his second chance in the world to make a difference by saving somebody's life, whereas the other guy used his life more selfishly, making money for himself and boosting his own ego by working in a big investment bank.
Not sure if I could spell-out that scene any better. I hope it helps :)
good description Kersh. It also stems from the biter rivalry prior to the accident where for all the guys success, he could not beat Charlie down. Charlie dances to his own tune and does whatever he sets his mind to well. His consideration fr other people is apparent, but the goldman sachs guy is a dweeb, of no consequence to his lifepath and it is satisfying to see an arrogant man put in his place where he deserves.
It also serves as a good seguay into the next scene where he reminisces of past glory's on the boat and has the wonderful conversation with tess on the boat, a gentle guy with artistic sensibilties and finally capable of true love.
Are you kidding? The character was a jerk, and the character happened to be played by a black actor. Charlie was hitting a jerk, not a Black man. Grow up.
shareIt was by far the best scene in the movie.
celebrity crush of the moment: Garrett Hedlund
The bar scene is one of the scattered fragments in this movie that support some kind of class-struggle story line that the director thought was important. You also see some of this in the early scenes. Charlie is from the poor side of the tracks, his mom has to work double shifts, he needs a scholarship to go to Stanford, the rich kids in the sailing scene scorn him. But none of this has anything to do with seeing dead people, so the bar scene is basically wasted space. The only thing it contributes to the main story line is that Charlie has no skills with women -- his five years of isolation has left him a social feeb in that area and he needs to get on with his life.
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