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OK, I'll ask the obvious question


I turned 15 in 1975. There was no Internet, social media, smart phones, cyberbullying, sexting, iPods, iPads, iTouch, cable TV, etc. If I liked someone I told my friend who told their friend or god forbid I wrote them a letter and shoved it in their locker. The only time I was naked was when I took a shower or changed my clothes. If anyone saw my genitals it was indeed a rare and intimate moment. My puny human brain could only handle school, hockey, after-school job and sibling rivalry. If I wanted to see porn I was out of luck, unless my next-door neighbor had an old Playboy magazine. That was it.

Was I better off or worse off than teens today?

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I'd say kids raised in the 70's/80's were far better off. Yeah, kids today are better connected electronically, but computers/phones/games etc. have taken over everything.

Having things limited back in the day actually helped us in other areas. Cartoons only on weekday afternoons/Saturdays with no other real option to watch? We studied or played outside.

No cell phones, with only one land line that couldn't be tied up? We met people face to face, wrote letters, or talked to them in school.

There were no such things as selfies, naked or otherwise, and the only time we showed someone else our body parts was when you got intimate. Computers/cellphones have slightly improved society, and greatly ruined it.

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Exactly. This film was also trying to show that, even though I see a lot of people on this board (kids?) not getting it.

I was 15 in 2000, just when internet was a new thing, but I feel sorry for the kids these days, they really seem almost completely soulless.

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Kids took nude photos of themselves then I can assure you. Do you remember Polaroid instant develop film? I assure you that teenagers took nude photos of themselves with Polaroids and other time of cameras. Teenagers use the available technology at their disposal to take nude photos or videos of themselves and share them. It just was easier to destroy the evidence because there was not a mass way to distribute the photos.

Blaming computers for people being irresponsible is not the answer.

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Kids took nude photos of themselves then I can assure you. Do you remember Polaroid instant develop film? I assure you that teenagers took nude photos of themselves with Polaroids and other time of cameras.


Yeah, I can concur on that. There was at least one girl in my high school who had nude photos taken by another friend (it wasn't me! - if it was, my adolescent brain would have exploded) to submit them to Playboy. Of course, she wasn't 18, she was barely 17, if that. I'm sure there were others, as there were some real babes in High School at that time.

I actually identify with the bullied kid. I was bullied, teased, in some ways even ostracized. It still bugs me a bit, I've never gone to a class reunion. Maybe the 25th, but more than likely I'll chicken out again.

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how old are you now? I had a really difficult time aswell in high school and never felt comfortable to go to a reunion either as my life isn't yet really succesfull... at least not at all in the eyes of general society (and for myself I'm only just at the beginning of the road towards succes as in "being happy with myself and proud of myself"). I'm about to turn 24 now.
I really feel *beep* about not wanting or even really daring (like, I could do it if I like FORCED myself but I would be highly uncomfortable and suspicious) to go to a reunion as I would really like to go to a reunion with pride and my head held high as to show them, you know? I'd really like to be able to arrive at that point one day. It might be even somewhat of a life goal for me a bit so that's why I'm so curious about how you've managed and where you're at!
So obviously it still bugs me to and I for my part identify with you again! =P (also with the bullied kid btw to some extend)

I just want to feel like I've come out strong and triomphant in the end... and able to face them with nothing but pride and feel like they never got the better of me. But in the end life is a little bit more complicated than that... you got to clean up alot of emotional mess beforehand... often not only the mess you made yourself but also the mess that others made for you.

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I turned 16 in 1975. Super-duper rhetorical question, bro'! You know the answer!


It's inevitable: there will be a "counter-culture" movement...

A future youth will vilify today's ready and reckless "giving away" of one's privacy. (It's like post WWII's Ward & June Cleaver, who were no longer tolerated by the Baby Boomers. They took over Columbia and burned their draft cards and bras.) Solitude and anonymity will be celebrated and/or coveted. A faction of youth will condemn the thoughtless distribution of one's identity via social media/the web. They'll champion privacy. They'll promote "secret living." This is already being cultivated by the disappearing ability of Millennials to carry-on in face-to-face interactions.

And to be successfully anonymous will be like owning a Bentley. Comparatively few will have it and those who do, will smugly enjoy their ride. The majority will watch them with envy and wish they had their own "Bentleys," too.

Then again, like the "Occupiers," it just won't work. We're too deeply entrenched in this process of easy-sharing of privacy.

Why a revolt? Because youth is hard-wired for it. It's how change happens.

"Every Generation Needs a New Revolution." -- Thomas Jefferson.

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Basically if the internet/cell phones all went down worldwide tomorrow, the current generation would be ****** beyond belief because they'd have no idea how to handle life without their precious technology.

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A Mass suicide would be imminent in the said situation.
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Better off, for sure.

Today, kids sit there and text with all of their friends rather than going to visit them (I know they still visit, but not nearly as much). Kids are glued to the internet to converse, watch films, etc. They are glued to the TV, watching on demand films from Netflix or DirecTV. Can you see where I am going with this?

I was born in 1972, and, like you, I didn't have any of those things growing up. I had friends that I visited. A movie was something that was on during Saturday afternoons or Sunday evening. Studying meant going to the library. Playing/having fun meant going outside and building a fort, riding bikes, going for an adventure down the bank behind the house where the creek ran through. Riding our bikes three miles to Ames to get a new audio cassette that we had saved up for from mowing lawns for five dollars a pop, for a big lawn, and three dollars for a smaller one, and with a push mower, as well.

One thing that you and I developed during our childhoods because they were so different than today is learning how to interact with people, face to face.

I'm glad I grew up when I did. I was active, I learned through experience instead of texting about something, and one other MAJOR thing...I stayed in shape. I didn't gain a pound a week from sitting on my butt, texting whoever, playing whatever video game, watching movies and stupid, pointless reality shows, and spending too much time on IMDB. LMAO.

And do you remember when you had a book report due? You actually wrote it in handwriting. Do you know that many schools don't even teach cursive anymore? Times are changing, alright, and some things are definitely NOT for the better.


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Excellent comment and I completely agree. I grew up in the 80's, so it was the VCR era, but we still hung out outside and conversed verbally. I see kids these days and I feel sorry for them and I feel angry with them at the same time. They do nothing.

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of course your childhood was awsome man ! that is the real natural life ..
when everything become accessible (like porn ) .. real life became boring

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I guess nudity wasn't a big deal before cameras in mobile phones and the internet.
in early 90's I was 15 I played strip poker luckily noone had a camera to record it and noone walked around with a normal camera. So it was nearly forgotten the day after by all who played.

to day I guess it is impossible to do that without someone having a mobile camera.


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Hm.I guess you cannot answer that question with a simple "yes" or "no". If you think of the situation of the people featured in the movie as an example, their real problem is always human - they are disconnected in the real world, and they seek human connections (and sometimes find it, although in a creepy way) in the virtual one. So if you get the internet out of the story, you would still see lonely people, just without the illusion of finding someone who really cares.

So, I would say it just depends. What would you say to someone who turned 15 in 1940. Was he better of just because he had no TV?

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That is a very good question, chimie, especially about the "no TV" aspect, and I am glad to say I can answer it with a certain degree of authority--my parents, who lived it. They were about 14 and 12 in 1940 and when I asked them that question they spoke of feeling very good about life. I guess it was their innocence, or maybe just not knowing so much about life, especially for kids their age. My father loved his radio shows and gave me a very detailed description of what it was like to go to the movies, where the newsreels told of the threat of Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany before the movies started, but my father said he had nothing but favorable memories of that era. Even though Japan eventually attacked us, and you know that if the Nazis could have reached us with nuclear weapons they would have definitely done it, both my parents said it was a great time for them. Of course they expressed their opinions through the filter of time and nostalgia, so who can be really sure. But they have lived through all the years since then to now, and they can at least navigate the Internet and use email (though they don't bother with social media), so I can appreciate their opinion. They were, after all, part of what is called the "Greatest Generation".

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Thank you for your insight. Now we should only find someone who was 15 before radio has become ubiquitous :) I feel lucky not being born in the 30s but I live in Eastern Europe, so here it was quite different.

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I turned 15 in 1959. We played outside on all the neighbor lawns til after dark, hide and seek and stuff. We rode our bikes all over. We got our first TV when I was nine, and I watched Howdy Doody.
My dad watched Gunsmoke all the time, and the Ed Sullivan show. I found TV pretty boring, especially after I went away to college and found all the same shows still on when I came home, so I quit watching it and became a hippie. I missed the 70s because I was farming and building a geodesic dome, and raising kids with no TV. Later on it was good for Sesame Street and Star Trek, and that's about it.
Now I don't watch TV any more, just occasional movies on my computer.

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I'm in my 50's and, yes, there has always been bullying. It is nothing new....it's human nature for some kids to act out this way, unfortunately.

What is different is the way that it can be done today. Instead of just being witnessed by a small group, as it was in the past (and once you finished high school, you could leave for college and never see any of those people again if you wished)....instead, new technologies like Facebook and Instagram make it ever so easy to do it in the most mortifyingly public way possible, as well as being able to "follow" someone electronically. Not only that, but in the past you always knew who your bully was.....being able to hide behind a fake picture and name (as we saw in the movie) allows for a new type of bullying (psychological warfare, really) that was just not humanly possible when I was a teen....and I thank God that it wasn't, and I was able to grow up free of such nonsense.



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