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What was the final shot?


I've read several references to the devastating final shot of the movie. I gather it's a close-up of Mary, but what is the context? Was it at the dinner table? I remember Tom and Gerri talking about how they met and the camera was on them, and then went over to Mary (and maybe by Ronnie on the way). Did it end on Mary's face there?

I have a terrible time remembering the end of any movie I see, particularly in a theater because I'm generally being swept away by the whole experience and don't focus on particulars. It's annoying, but great for re-viewings. :-)

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It did really impress me, but I'm not in a position to see it again and to be honest, I'm not sure I'd want to see it again. I loved the spending some time with those people, but that's over and I've moved on. There are other movies I've seen a dozen times in a theater, but this won't be one of them. It's no reflection on how much I liked it.

I was missing just this little piece, and I wouldn't even have known I was missing it if so many reviewers hadn't referred to it. Not knowing doesn't affect me one way or the other--I was just curious. But I just read one last review (I like to savor Anthony Lane's reviews) and found it: "Hence the lingering image of Mary at the end, keeping silence at a busy dinner table, an island of despair."



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No one could have said it any better than easypz.

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Very well put easypz.




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Well, this is annoying...half of the postings here are praising something "easypz" posted as being brilliant and yet I see that the postings were deleted by an IMDB administrator. What gives???





You've done some bad things, sweetie.

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Such a bummer. I guess we'll never know...

"But the good news is; the whiskey works." -Bob, Lost In Translation

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easypz, I have read 4 or 5 of your posts on this movie and agree with all of them. Gosh you are smart!

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>>>Mary's despair has extra impact because she entered the scene relieved to have a chance at a new foothold on intimacy with Gerri and her family, only to discover that she has no access to it.

Exactly, well said.

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Yes, beautifully articulated easypz.

That final scene was sooooo brilliant and powerful - I actually shouted at the television 'You are genius Mr. Leigh!!'

It was also the complete silence wasn't it. All of a sudden there is no sound - at all......and Lesley Manville's face as Mary. The expression, the pain. Just incredibly moving. What an actress this woman is. When it suddenly shifted to a black screen it took my breath away. When you write 'she may as well be eating alone in her flat' you hit the nail right on the head as far as I can see - like your work!

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Thank you for your interpretation DanteRotterdam - lovely addition. Your added thoughts make a lot of sense to me and add a much needed glimmer of optimism. Yes, your interpretation certainly holds water. Gerri and Tom are essentially good people and (correct again) there is no way they will be casting her out of their lives. Your analogy of your young nephew's face is powerful, because it also made me think about just how child like Mary actually behaves in so many ways. Following this on, Mary is almost their adopted daughter at the table when I take your thoughts into consideration. Mr. Leigh's films certainly get us all working and engaging with his stories of life don't they.

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just watched this movie for the first time - I couldn't agree with easypz more on this take. Simply brilliant (as is this movie, of course).

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The final shot is of Mary - no other characters can be seen. It is quite a long shot, at first we can hear everyone talking, but the level of the dialogue decreases until their is complete silence. The shot seems quite long because of the awkwardness of the scene and because it is shocking in its' heartbreaking-ness.

I remember thinking, "you can't end the movie here!!!" and sure enough, that's the end. It's up to the viewer's imagination as to where things go from here. Is Mary at the end of her rope, is suicide forthcoming? Or has she hit rock bottom and now she needs to find her way out of the hole that she has found herself in? Much to ponder!

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I think there was a level of hope in the final scene ,its the first time in the film where mary really,actually listens to the others conversation instead of derailing it for her own ends .

She might have finally learned something here , and begin to appreciate tom and gerri talking about their past lives as actual people instead of a crutch for her to lean on at every minute turn in her life .

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gazbomb is right. Mary finally LISTENS instead of letting her inadequacy force her to constantly talk about herself. She must realize the world isn't centered around herself and that her desperation is something that she can tackle only by giving up her superficiality.

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Ah, but consider what Mary is having to listen to. Tom and Gerri recollecting their extensive travelling memories; Joe and Katie anticipating their trip to Paris; the sound of the older and younger couples bonding further. When Mary participates briefly in the conversation and talks about her time spent working on a Greek island the emphasis swiftly changes back to the two couples again. She looks for some kind of response from Ronnie with a quick searching smile, but he has retreated into one of his stony silences.

It seems to me that just before the camera settles onto her face for the lingering closes shot, Mary's chugging down her wine tells us a great deal about what she imagines for her future. That is much more of what we have just witnessed over the proceeding four seasons, only this time her connection to the family seeming less certain. There is of course a chance she can stop being so self involved, co-dependent on others and turn things around for herself, and not necessarily by accepting Gerri's advice to seek professional help, but as the light fades around her and the chatter of conversation diminishes under the melancholy music, she appears anything but optimistic, her eyes as dull and depressed as Janet's in the film's opening scene. If she has gained new insight into the reality of her life, it's a bleak one.

Mike Leigh said he felt Another Year is both optimistic and pessimistic, and it's up to us to decide for ourselves which of his characters these states apply to. Yet I couldn't ignore two seemingly slight, but recurring gestures that offer a grim warning of what may be in store for Mary unless she can change her circumstances:

The first is when Mary arrives at Tom and Gerri's early on in the film, and is exasperated with herself for her inappropriate choice of wine. She then mimes putting a gun to her head. A second after, and behind her back, Gerri mimics her gesture. Then towards the end of the film there is a variation on this when Joe and Katie arrive for a family get-together, and when Katie learns that a morose Mary has made an unannounced visit stretches her long scarf to indicate being hung. I've referred to this in other posts, and the responses were that Katie, who has already had a rather strained encounter with Mary, is miming that she finds Mary depressing to an extreme. I still maintain Katie is inferring that Mary is indeed depressed and hysterical to the degree that she could easily become suicidal. Or to put it another way, "Oh no, it's the suicidal woman!" Katie means it to be humorous gesture of course, and so it is in a grimly comic way because it is surely an aspect of Mary that has crossed our minds as well.

With this uncomfortable thought in mind I viewed Mary's baleful stare and darkening of the room with a sense of alarm, not least due to Lesley Manville's fantastically believable performance in bringing to life a thoroughly irritating yet ultimately sympathetic and very human character.



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I don't know if I agree that Mary is finally listening in the final scene- I think Leigh's removal of all sound points to her isolation. After all, Mary, desperate to find a way into this family, figures that Ken might just be her way in. When Leigh pans by to show Ken's stoic look at the back and forth conversation- followed by his smile at Mary(to me that read, "We're just not part of this")- she realizes that her last avenue has been closed and hence her despairing look. Sorry to be so negative, but that's the way I read the ending.

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I'd say you are spot on indy and the previous poster. It does have the look of desperation. She really has nothing to offer if she ever did. If she was her old self she would be hogging the conversation with: "oh, don't go to Paris, I had a bad experience there once" or "don't take the train, I had a horrible trip on one". All negative.

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The film was towards the very end & that shot of Mary appeared, the scene lasted unusually long & I yelled at the screen "no, no, don't end it like this!!!". Then, black screen, roll credits. Dang, I wanted more! Brilliant!

As someone posted above, that scene shows Mary in her desperate isolation. The viewer is left wondering whether Mary will change her ways & stop being so shallow, needy, solipsistic & awkwardly self conscious.

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My interpretation is, like a few other posters, sadly pessimistic. Mary's not really listening - she realises she's out of her depth at the dinner table, hence why she casts a lengthy look to Ronnie, to grasp a slither of solidarity, and drinking the wine is, as always for her, a defence mechanism - her way of dealing with the pain and the isolation she feels. And of course there's no sound for about 10 seconds, with the camera solely on Mary, whose expression is for me a combination of exhaustion and feeling that "this is over". She knows she can't do anymore to try to fit into the family dynamic and that a chapter's been closed irrevocably, now that Joe is in a long-term relationship and remembering what Geri, in the scene before, said to her: "This is my family. You have to understand that".

Lesley Manville in the DVD interview says she knew what Mary was thinking when she performed that final scene and that she loves that it's "up for for grabs", but actually I think what Leigh and her are saying in that moment is obvious.

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As bad as Mary is at chewing up the scenery in every instance, Katie is horrid too. Just so cheerful to the extreme. I couldn't abide her.

Mary is sad, but Katie in future, when things don't always go as planned will either dive into wine like Mary or be so upbeat that you just want to strangle her.

neither Mary nor Katie seem normal.

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To me the last shot was... It explodes on her face,like the big one you know? that people really dont care much about YOU specially the pathetic YOU and people only wanna talk about good things that happen in life. poor woman she was very very sad right in the beginning. her quest of being a good listener shows that she really needs someone to talk to.

Les Noir

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I think she realizes she's absolutely out of the conversation and of Gerri's family. She realizes she's absolutely alone.
Before she looks for Ronnie support, but she fells rejected. And for a moment it seems like she'll be included in the conversation and smiles, but then the theme returns to the exotic travels of Gerri, Tom, Joe and Katie.

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