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reasons not to listen to bad 'reviews'


This was actually a pretty entertaining movie, lovely locations and they even catered to the disgruntled english-speaking-can't-be-bothered-reading-subtitles crowd, by having american & british actors (well known at that) & making it a totally english-speaking movie. The acting was fine...well, but for the actress playing Jeff's wife. And she doesn't have much screen time anyway.

I had to laugh when I read one "reveiwer" who says something about this being usual japanese fare---first of all, there's absolutely Nothing japanese about it, nor does it resemble "Ringu" or "The Grudge" in any way. Unless being set somewhere in Asia & deals with death is all it takes. It is set in Thailand and deals with thai spirit worlds & beliefs. Then the person said something about Sam Raimi...he had nothing to do with this---nor does it have any of his style.

I am a true movie-aficionado, but I don't have a list on the IMDB here of all the movies I've seen because sometimes this site irritates me with the "worst movie ever made" threads on just about every movie ever made & I disagree with their "Top 250", & sometimes I just don't have the time to come here but I've seen well over 4000 movies...and I would NEVER decide unilaterally that if I didn't like it, everybody else shouldn't see it so I'll just tell everybody not to watch it. I think there are some movies we can almost always agree are just horrible ...but how would one know if they never watched it for themselves? People who watch 5 or 10 minutes & think they've got something useful to add are just as bad.

So watch it---or any other movie you want---just don't be a sheep ...and decide for yourself.

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I've been watching flics for a long time, being the old fart I am, and this sucked hard. The only reason I bothered to finish it was to come back and say how full of sh!te any of the positive comments are.

Don't waste your time on this.

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And you're certainly entitled to your opinion (at least you watched it)

I could say the naysayers are completely full of *beep* as well, but I'm actually glad we're not all the same.

If you're an old fart I'm sure you know this one: you can please some of them some of the time, yadda yadda yadda...

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I just finished watching this movie.

**mini spoilers**


For me: The first half or maybe 2/3 wasn't all that good.

I tired rapidly of the special effects 'spirits' -- the darting freaky eye'd creatures. Actually, those effects *did* in fact make me thing of movies along the 'Ringu' genre.

I think they could have done a much better job portraying the spirits in a truly scary way, without resorting to rather cheap pop-out scare effects. Already overdone and looked rather amateurish.

The woman who played the 'aunt' wasn't a very good actress, IMHO.

Hurt's character was rather cliché: the older, jaded now-decadent warrior-type who reluctantly is guilt-tripped back into one final grand battle: A 2D character, and that is unfortunate given it is the great William Hurt.

I did, however, like the last part, when they did the ritual of going into the spirit world.

It seemed at that point that everything tied together in those scenes, William Hurt was great, and that the story was finally interesting, starting when Choi had to sit there with her eyes closed and Warren (Hurt) was helping her while Jeff (Elwes) was trying to reunite himself, and then Warren had to step in and fight off his own demons -- all that was good.

However, when Jeff is there with his family, I felt they dragged that out too long...the '7-minute' window was already longer than 7 minutes and I kept thinking 'enough already...Choi put herself on the line for you -- after all everyone, including you, has been through, don't sit and wait for permission and last soppy farewells from your dead-is-dead family to get the heck out of Dodge before it's too late.' Instead of the 'suspense' I'm sure the viewer was supposed to feel at that point, I found myself feeling more annoyed with how long that scene stretched out.

Frankly, I don't know how the filmmaker got Elwes and Hurt to sign on for this project -- maybe it was the dollars and a nice paid vacation to a beautiful, tropical location.

In any event, I give this film a 4.5 rating, and this rating is that high due to the last part of the film and for what the talented Hurt and Elwes were able to do with what little they were given.



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I liked the aunt but the family meet did go on way too long. He was being selfish.

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It is typical Japanese horror though. Typical Japanese horror, displaced spirits trying to get the living, have to appease something in some way so as everything can rest in peace. The fact that it's Thailand you say? makes no difference. It could be set in New York and it would still be a typical Japanese horror film. You like to dismiss everyone's opinion thinking only yours matters. If someone says this movie is *beep* it would be closer to the truth than saying, "oh you're entitled to your (notice the pretentious use of italics like you did) opinion blah blah". This was typical Japanese horror. You might know that if you weren't so busy being such a pompous windbag.

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I really enjoyed this movie! I never take to heart other reviews. I dance to a different drummer. Oh, by the way, to the person who posted he didn't like William Hurt in this movie...Well, I thought he was awesome!

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Actually, I only listen to reviews a little bit because everyone's perception is different. But.....I hated this movie. It was boring and never really got off of the ground for me.

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