Not enough to go to hell in my personal opinion. The way they were building it up, you thought he molested and killed a little kid or something. Barely even rape, really. If I did it, I wouldn't have had any guilt whatsoever.
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Every IMDb board contains the topic title: "worst movie ever".
While I don't think it's perfectly fine, in my mind it wasn't his fault. First off, she was a hooker, not a stripper- or at least she was fine with having sex with whatever men the frat boys wanted her to. Second, he didn't choose to keep having sex after she wanted to stop, the rest of the frat boys physically forced him to do it.
I'm not saying he shouldn't feel guilt over it, but I'd find it hard to believe that someone could watch that video and blame him for it.
She wasn’t a hooker. All we see her do is give a pledge a lap dance before she’s pulled into a room to have sex with Paul. When Paul got on top of her and she started to refuse, she said “This isn’t what I do”, and in the conversation with her husband when he caught her in bed with another man, she said something along the lines of “I shouldn’t have stripped that night”---but I remember her saying “stripped”. So she was strictly a stripper. Secondly, even if she was a hooker, no still means no, stop still means stop, etc. etc.---I thought everyone learned this back in the 70s/80s.
Third, it’s true the frat boys didn’t give Paul much of a choice, but there is a point in the end of the fighting where he gets fed up and focuses all his anger towards the frat boys at Sandy (stripper) instead. I don’t believe he was a true rapist; I do believe he was somewhat forced in the beginning, but it ended up as a choice of his regardless because they weren’t forcing him anymore at that point. Maybe if they had been threatening him with a weapon the whole time, I would have said it was solely the frat boys' faults, but that wasn’t the case.
And for lowtek_forever’s comment, I of course don’t agree with you, but I believe it was more about the consequence of the rape rather than the rape itself. The fact that it caused Sandy to change to a point where her marriage (and I felt her, as well) was destroyed and unfortunately led to her and her husband’s (as well as that harmless bar guy's) demise. I know it seems stupid to say it was Paul’s fault Frank (the husband) murdered Sandy and that bar guy---of course that was Frank's own crime, and one we clearly see he had to prove redemption for since Paul was his “assignment”. But it was just about Paul’s careless actions being THE factor that changed the course of both Sandy and Frank’s lives to the point that it did. None of that would have happened if Paul hadn't raped her.
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Whoa! Even if she were a prostitute she still has the right to consent!
shareHey OP, do you wanna get your own sig instead of swiping mine?
My sig: why do almost all movies on imdb have a "worst movie ever!" thread?
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So this film is saying Sandy became a sociopathic ice-cold bitch because of what Paul did??
I can certainly see her being very troubled, rage-filled, or even suicidal but what SHE turned into was very likely who she already was!
The way she acted towards her husband (why did she even marry that guy, if she hated him?! Are we to believe she married him because the rape made her self-destructive?) was despicable. I know what trauma sexual abuse can bring, but she CHOSE the person she became.
"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."
Agreed.
Hama cheez ba-Beer behtar meshawad!
WHAT?
I saw the film, she was crying and pleading, " please stop, I dont do this" over & over.
Wow, thanks Mr. Misogynist, from all of us women out here!
-If you ever get to prison, sir, for raping a woman- or say, just ya know, penetrating her forcefully against her will- or without permission, or, um, "doing it to someone who is drunk, stoned or not able to defend themselves" - then the inmates will pay it back to you, every single day. In the same way - So l'd watch that ideology of yours. And understand what RAPE is.