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Who are these clowns?

posted 9 years ago by BlackDog123
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One of the very first talking heads on this discusses its illegality, and how it is considered battery - yet we have a cop and a representative of the Democratic party endorsing back yard fighting? And when other cops DO show up, they just ask them to clear the street.

This promoter is so full of himself, and is taking horrible advantage of desperate young men. Promoting fights with no medic, no safety gear, and taking the vast majority of the profits for himself. He disgusts me and I hope he gets prison time. If young adults want to box, that's fine - push for it at the community center or the Y, where it is monitored by adults (who aren't profiting from it) and where safety measures are taken! The community center by my house has night boxing lessons 4 nights a week, along with midnight basketball. There is a small charge for using the gym, but it is really easy to get a scholarship for it (I am in a low income neighborhood). There are actual coaches and safety gear, and everyone takes first aid/cpr.

If this documentary intended to glamorize these fights and humanize the fighters - nope.

I also got grossed out by the young children (2 or 3) watching the fights, and being encouraged to punch. Awesome - ensure your toddler gets a head injury. There really needs to be more education in the community about the danger of concussion (something I assumed was common sense, but I guess not).

They're coming to get you, Barbara!

[–] mkoehler86 9 years ago

Well put. This documentary was a shameful depiction of the black community.

[–] strongnfemale 9 years ago

It's not a depiction of the Black community! It's a specific neighborhood in Florida.

[–] JoshuaDysart 8 years ago

Thank you, the amount of generalization and racism on this film's board is just crazy.

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[–] halfjackson 9 years ago

Gotta love the part where the democrat rep is telling them the party is behind them 100%. Also, Dada doesn't make any money off the fights.

[–] spazzboy86 9 years ago

I'm not buying it that dada made nothing from the fights. he was taking $20 a head from crowd to watch the fight then I assume it was filmed and sold to some website his own or worldstar or whatever if not just youtube which is big money these days. he made some after all is said and done I think.

[–] BlackDog123 9 years ago

True - he did SAY that, but I don't believe a word. I don't think he was making a ton of money by "middle class" standards (he had no car, lived with his mother, etc), but he made a point of talking about his "personal" barber who came to his house, and he never once mentioned any form of employment. In a normal business, I wouldn't begrudge him making a profit - having the fight at his house involved effort and risk. HOWEVER, he encouraged his fighters to continue when injured, at a point when any reputable ref would have ended the fight. Massive conflict of interest, not to mention a completely cash business with no accounting, records or oversight.

This guy just rubbed me the wrong way. AND look at how differently head trauma is handled here versus in "reputable," predominantly white, middle class situations (i.e. high school football) - we have experts talking about safety and signs of concussion, whereas in this neighborhood, it's like the worst-kept criminal secret, with threats of prosecution while the authorities look the other way, enjoying the show.

Sorry, end rant:)

They're coming to get you, Barbara!

[–] timlin-4 9 years ago

Getting hammered on your head for long periods with gloves is not really safer. If you had a real doctor instead of a "medic" he would walk out. Also these guys are hardly "young adults", they are ex-cons who want money not lessons. The kids watching will never have anything either, since there are NO JOBS in these communities

[–] nwsurfrider 9 years ago

Agreed - I didn't find this documentary inspirational at all. I found it pretty disgusting, actually. I think they'd have a better chance at starting a baseball or basketball academy rather than some backyard version of Toughman fights to try to get noticed. I felt the worst for the kids, being exposed to this. You can already see their futures mapped out for them. Just depressing, really.

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[–] worm333 9 years ago

I don't see how you can accuse Dada of greed. He was charging 20 dollars a head to get in. It looked like he had about 30-40 people watching the fights which is like $600-$800 best case scenario.

I am sure half of the people were fighting themselves or got in for free some how, kids etc. He was paying $200 a fight to the winner $25 to the loser. His fight shows had like 6 fights! That is like $1,500 in prizes.

If I had to guess I am sure he is probably connected with some kind of other criminal enterprise to make real money on the side but I seriously doubt he is raking in huge profits from the fight business. Maybe the real money is in the gambling and book making, he acts as the house or something. I don't get it.

Regarding legit boxing, eh that is great that your neighborhood has all that stuff good for you. Most people in the world don't get free gyms and boxing lessons. Fighting bare knuckle is arguably less damaging to your brain because you can't hit as hard without gloves. That guy that broke his wrist illustrates that point. The cackling girlfriends and old black ladies are probably doing the most harm when they shame the guys into getting back into the ring after they have gotten rocked by some pretty brutal headshots.

[–] acid_rogue 9 years ago

Who are these clowns?

A bunch of dead Never-Were's mostly.

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