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Totally off-topic...but


Have any of you read the book "Night" by Elie Wiesel (I hope I spelled his name right)? It is definitely one of the darkest accounts about the holocaust through the eyes of a child and while I was reading it, I pictured an extremely disturbing, yet moving, movie in my head. As dark as most of the movies based on the Holocaust are (obviously because of it's source), I think this would be one of the most moving and the most disturbing picture since it is told by someone who survived the terrible concentration camps and unlike "Come and See", is a true story. Any thoughts????

P.S. - If you haven't read it, definitely pick it up

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"Come and See" is based on a true event ("story", as you call it). Please, do your homework before posting.

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Sorry for offending you with regards to "Come and See" (which is one of my most favorite films of all time). I am assuming you haven't read it (Night) because you totally by-passed my ACTUAL question. I am not saying "Night" would have more validity than "Come and See", but "Night" would be invigorating as well because of the fact that the narrator is also a child WHO WAS IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP and we would have a view from a person who survived the horrors of the Nazi Camps. Yes I am aware that the plot of "Come and See" is based on the accounts of Ales Adamovich (I looked it up after your lecture on it's history) about his time in the war, much like that, a first hand account of horrors within a concentration camp would also make great yet disturbing viewing. I sense you thought that I was not giving Klimov's "Come and See" it's justified acclaim, which you again misinterpreted. I suggest you read the book (NIGHT) before you post about my ORIGINAL QUESTION. IF YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE ANY OPINIONS AS TO WHAT I WAS ACTUALLY ASKING? READ it please if you have to post your two-cents on it, it's not very long and may suit your attention span which I can (hastily, like yourself) conclude from your remark is one which is limited to key words (u deem crucial) while ignoring the actual gist of a point being made. IF YOU DON'T INTEND TO READ IT...SIMPLE DON'T BOTHER POSTING. I WAS NOT LOOKING FOR A HISTORY LESSON, JUST AN OPINION... WHICH IT SEEMS IS ANOTHER POINT YOU HAVE COMPLETELY MISSED. IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND A QUESTION, THE LOGICAL THING IS NOT TO ANSWER. IF THIS FACT IS TOO MUCH FOR YOUR BRAIN TO HANDLE, THEN YOURS IS AN OPINION I CAN DO WITHOUT.

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okaaaay, okaay, okaaay!!

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Poster 'aliza' said one thing: "do your homework before posting", and 'silentman' you reacted with a major FIT -- went on a rampage that consisted of a few paragraphs filled with nastiness and rage.

Cool t! if anything you are going to end up with a heart attack, youre only harming yourself.

what's wrong with you people !?

Leave the girl alone ...

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Your screaming fit of indignant rage over a simple statement reflects very poorly on yourself. Just saying.

Please click on "reply" at the post you're responding to. Thanks.

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Looks like you're way too sensitive. So, I beg my pardon for traumatising you.

Listen to your enemy, for God is talking

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Poster 'aliza' said one thing: "do your homework before posting", and 'silentman' reacted with a major FIT -- went on a rampage that consisted of a few paragraphs filled with nastiness and rage.

I don't see why everyone else is attacking the girl!

what's wrong with you people !?

Leave the girl alone ...

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NotSoSilentMan,

I've read Night, after a friend recommended it, and was of course moved. However, for me, it wasn't the most moving memoirs of a concentration camp survivor (but I realize that this is a very personal thing: what touches me most might not be the same thing that touches you most, and it's perfectly alright). What all survivors' account have in common though is that you know beforehand that the author survived, and that he/she witnessed death, brutality and horror on a scale none of us can imagine. Therefore, important recurring questions are (1) how the person manages to resume living a more or less normal life afterwards without losing faith in humanity (2) how the person views the perpetrators of those atrocities (Who do they blame? Who can they forgive? etc) (3) how the person needs to be bear witness in order to honor the dead, and to prevent exterminations/genocides from happening again.

But this movie is not about survival in a camp, since it focuses on a small group of Jewish people who are hiding in order to avoid being deported to a death camp (only a small camp is shown for a brief moment in the movie, for reasons I can't explain without including spoilers). Therefore, there's less "first-hand brutality" (so to speak), and the 3 questions above aren't addressed; but of course that's relative, since almost everything is less brutal than a first-hand account of surviving an extermination camp.
There's plenty of misery though since they're living/surviving/hiding/loving and even hating one another in rat-infected sewers. But there's also quite a bit of humor. And the focus is on the interactions between all those people who have very little in common, including the non-Jewish person who helps them. So I'd say there's a LOT more suspense and less sheer hopeless despair, since you're wondering the entire time who's going to make it and who might get caught (here again, I want to avoid spoilers).
And yes, imo this movie's extremely moving, since it's based on a true story, since the actors are phenomenal, since there are several young children involved, and since it's very easy to bond with all the characters even though they are far from perfect and act quite foolishly more than once.

Bottom line: comparing Night with this movie is a bit like comparing apples and oranges, but I highly recommend you watch this movie!
Hope this answers your question.

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