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Am I the only one who thinks the sex was unnecessary and harmful?


So much of the film to like. And I like sex as much as anyone. But what could have been going on in the head of the director? (A lovely little old lady, by the way, from what we see in the DVD's extra features.)

The woman "showering" in the sewer. That was clean water? If it was, did she have to be shown nude?

The girl masturbating watching others having sex. Just not plausible. Certainly not necessary.

Mr Socha coming home and jumping in bed with his wife. How did that add to our understanding of his character?

Ms Holland, the director, is obviously no dummy. She knew what she was doing. I wish I could ask her what she gained with the sex scenes, at the cost of repelling many potential viewers, some of them teenagers.

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I don't think it was harmful. This is afterall rated R in the US.

If you saw the interview in the extra features with the director at the screening of the film, you would have noticed the lady that interviewed her, asked this question. I remember she said something like it was because it made them feel alive and distracted them from the horrors of the war. There is your answer. If want more information, watch the interview.

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Very realistic. Sex was commonplace in ghettos where many families lived in one room. They had no shame.

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"Harmful"?

People/animals often turn to sex in life-or-death situations. It's a way of clinging to the former and shutting out the latter. It's also a primal way of attempting to propagate the species.

And it's great stress relief.

Passion is just insanity in a cashmere sweater!

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It was normal. What are you, a Puritan?

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People with prudish/puritanical views should be teleported back to the Dark Ages so they won't have to be exposed to it anymore. Therefore, the rest of us who DON'T have a problem with sexuality and nudity could be left alone.

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OP misses the whole point of the lessons, both of the movie and the Holocaust. People were being persecuted and murdered, simply because others said they were different, and not human. Director Holland showed Jews having sex to show that they're people, just like every1 else. This was also done in her other Holocaust movie 'Europa, Europa' - another true Holocaust story, where the teenage Jewish boy pops his cherry at age 18, on a train, f#cking a Nazi woman who thinks he looks like Hitler (!). The boy was scared, and horny - in other words, just like any 18-year-old boy would have been. By showing us the sex going on (which was true), she refutes the very thesis of the Nazis and racial discrimination, by showing that even while struggling to survive, the refugees have the most human of emotions & actions. The triumph of the human spirit, under the most adverse conditions.

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