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Nissan Leaf now the World's most successful plug-in car


News articles recently have speculated on the Nissan Leaf's future, based only on the relatively stagnant level of US sales in 2012.

What most US reporters overlook, of course, is that Nissan is not an American company - they are Japanese, and focused globally. There is no need to judge the success of their cars based only on US sales.

If fact, worldwide - the Leaf has sold nearly 50,000 plug-in cars in the last two years. This beats the Chevy Volt at around 40,000 total cars sold, and dwarfs all the other plug-ins, like the Toyota PiP.

Nissan has had little expectation of major sales success in the US until their Tennessee plant opens this year. With Leafs soon to be assembled here in the USA, the US price will drop.

Leaf will become the least expensive EV for sale, just a bit over $20k after rebate.

Source: Leaf's Wiki page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Leaf#Markets

...Since December 2010, Nissan has sold more than 48,500 Leafs worldwide during its first two years in the market, making the Leaf the world's best-selling highway-capable electric car. The top selling markets are Japan with about 21,000 Leafs sold through December 2012, the United States with 19,512 units sold through December 2012, and Europe with more than 6,000 units sold by October 2012

To put the sales numbers into perspective, here's a 2012 sales chart of ALL car models for sale in the US (266 different car models.) Remember these are US sales numbers, international sales aren't listed:

http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2013/01/2012-usa-auto-sales-rankings-by-m odel7.html

It shows that any car getting 20,000 to 30,000 sales per year (Both Leaf and Volt fall into this category) would easily rank in the top half for sales among all car models available. No car which outranks most car models for sale (as both Leaf and Volt do) could reasonably be considered a failure.

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Sales of all US cars and trucks dipped in January, so of course electric vehicle sales have also tapered.

GM and Nissan say that part of the problem was low inventory following a December sales spike:

http://www.plugincars.com/chevy-volt-sales-fall-january-2013-nissan-le af-down-too-126308.html

Sales of both Leaf and Volt did exceptionally well, globally, in 2012. International sales of Volt + Ampera (Euro version of Volt) passed 30,000 cars sold last year, as tracked on Volt's Wiki page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Volt#Global_sales

It took Prius seven years after introduction to reach 30,000 sales per year. Volt hit this milestone in only its second year.

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Time for an EV sales update for April 2013. EV sales trends are continuing upward.

Some folks in the media (and on this board) are reporting a slight dip in sales for EVs in April. What they forget, of course, is that electric cars are a global product - you have to look at worldwide sales, not US sales.

You also can't just look at a slight dip in one month (normal sales variations), and ignore the longer term trend.

Link:
http://insideevs.com/april-2013-chevrolet-volt-sales/

Quote: "...Year to date sales of the Volt now total 5,550, which is still a 3.3% improvement over 2012, when 5,377 Volts were sold."

And again - that number above is just US sales.

At this time last year, non-US sales of Volt hadn't really started yet. This year (2013) you can add about 700 sales/month for non-US sales to the 5,550 number above, making approximately 8,300 sales total, a BIG improvement over 2012.

Same with Nissan Leaf, the USA has never been the biggest market for Nissan with this car. When global numbers are looked at, the car is an unprecedented success.

Link:
http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/Energy-Voices/2013/0402/Nissan-Le af-sales-soar-in-record-month-for-plug-in-cars

Quote: "......Sales of the Nissan Leaf roared to life in March, breaking the record for sales of electric vehicles in a month that may turn out to be the industry's best yet."

Tesla sales are also growing at a fast pace, and Tesla stock is on a tear, surpassing 20% growth in a single month. Tesla is now profitable, and repaying their government ATVM loan early.

Other EV makers, like Coda, haven't been as lucky. But - despite insinuations both in the media and on this board - Coda did NOT have a government loan. Their funding came from private investment.
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@apeweek I liked the Leaf, at least after seeing its portrayal in the documentary, and Carlos Ghosn seems like a formidable force, but the pricing in Australia is a joke.

According to Leaf's Wiki page, in June 2012 it cost A$51,500 (US$53,860). A Prius costs A$24k. Why on earth would anyone in Australia pay more than double the price for a green car?

They showed Ghosn at the global launch making a big deal about how the Leaf would offer environmental benefits "at a price people can afford" - over $50k does not qualify as such a price.

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in June 2012 it cost A$51,500 (US$53,860). A Prius costs A$24k. Why on earth would anyone in Australia pay more than double the price for a green car?

Well, if I lived where you do, I probably wouldn't buy one.

In your situation, if I really wanted an EV, I would visit a "converter" business and have a used car converted to electricity, or perhaps even do the conversion myself, from a kit.

Example:

http://www.zeva.com.au/

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