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Question about the 'here go hell come' guy...


i've not watched this show (and don't intend on it)
but i know of that one guy from The Soup... and i noticed he's still on the show.

i'm just curious, is he actually a good designer?
or are they keeping him on the show because he's a Personality???

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There is no doubt he is the seasons' 'villain'. Though he seems to be going through a bit of a redemption edit last episode.

Whether he is a good designer compared to the others, I'm not too sure. He is a bit hit and miss, but he has delivered some nice looks... but some absolutely horrid ones. Doing a strange kimono cross graduation robe when he was designing for the groom of a wedding.

He also hasn't won a challenge or even been in the top two, he has however been in the bottom two twice. Whilst his competition has at least one or two challenge wins. The guy who got eliminated this week had three challenge wins under his belt.

I think the problem with Calvin is that he used to being the boss of his own business, that he's grown a little unfamiliar of having to work as a team or be subordinate to someone.

Compared to those who are left though, Calvin probably should have left a while ago.

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his kimono was not ugly and he is a good designer it's just that he was stuck with a bunch of idiot people who are okay seamstresses. Calvin is a businessman he has three stores in the USA and it really shows the difference between him and the other designers because I don't think any of them are doing that well with their career's. and eduordo made the same dress every week and the judges finally realized that. calvin will be in the final because he deserves it.

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I think s2a0rah is really c2a0lvin...

Sorry but that kimono was butt ugly, poorly fitting AND clearly Japanese; it was nothing like what the client asked for and was practically insulting to the client, even being in a colour he specifically said would never be worn at a Korean wedding, and it's not like the client didn't try to explain this to Calvin, he did and was told to basically shut up as rudely as possible. Let's not forget also that while Cindy (was that her name?) took the coat in too much, it was Calvin who subsequently enlarged it - creating puckered seams along the way - and Cindy of course ended up out on what was 40% Calvins shoddy work. If you can defend him for that, then that says all I need to know about you.

If he's a good designer, where are his good designs? I've seen nothing but tacky rubbish. I agree that the rest aren't much cop either, and while Eduardo may have shown repetitive designs they were all gorgeous and extremely well made.

And if he's doing so well in his career, what's he doing on this show? What he deserves is to be kicked off the show and shunned by fashion world until he sorts his s**t out.

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and he is a good designer it's just that he was stuck with a bunch of idiot people who are okay seamstresses. Calvin is a businessman he has three stores in the USA and it really shows the difference between him and the other designers


I'm NOT Calvin and up to this point I agree with the poster.

Here's the thing about the Kimono, I fully blame the show and the client. If you want a specially made traditional anything...then by gum, bring in a picture of that tradition or allow the designer to research. I gotta be honest here, I got the feeling Calvin got paired with the couple because one was Asian - but all Asians are not alike, just like all other races/nationalities. Calvin knew nadda about Korean Culture. I do think he should have found out and it would not have been such an ill designed creation.

I'm not really a fan of any body on this show but Caesar, and I hope he wins. Watching Calvin week after week points out to me that the economy has hit hard and those who were in high positions will move around and do things in other economies they wouldn't think of doing. This is not to say Calvin is a good designer, it's just to think...what if there was a modeling show and (lets say a young) Kelly Emberg decided to compete. I'm not saying Calvin is a Kelly for sure, but hey...

"This is something that happens."

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if you want something Korean go see a Korean..


Yes, I remember that. And I thought it was because Calvin was incensed as he is not Korean but was asked to get into a culture...well..some peopl are super sensitive about those things.. people identifying Hispanic people all the same such as Mexicans as Puerto Ricans, or El Salvadorians as Mexicans, etc. Asians too have it kinda bad as Chinese is not the same as Japanese or Korean or Vietnamese or Laotian, etc...they are not all the same and know each others secrets. It's bad assumption to do that and lately, many people do that.

True, Calvin needs to shut up and listen and know that the client comes first but if this was the case, then I know where this particular attitude may have stemmed.

"This is something that happens."

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.they are not all the same and know each others secrets. It's bad assumption to do that and lately, many people do that.

But do you seriously think the client, who was of Korean descent, would have made such an assumption?

“If they let Jack do it his way the show would be just 12” – snorgtees.com

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I got the feeling Calvin got paired with the couple because one was Asian - but all Asians are not alike, just like all other races/nationalities. Calvin knew nadda about Korean Culture.

You would think that between the two of them - both being of Asian heritage and all - they would be capable of recognizing that.

The client did since he was willing to try and explain. On the other hand, Calvin not only had no interest in designing a Korean-style kimono, he also had no interest in listening to the client about color. You'd also think that if he didn't know about the style, he would at least been willing to listen on the color.

But he didn't.

He wasn't interested in listening to the client AT ALL.

It's true Calvin didn't know anything about Korean culture. And I'd bet none of the other designers did either. So really that is not an excuse. It's highly likely that if another designer had been in charge of the design it would have been much better simply because that designer would have been willing to listen to the client.

What if the client had been, say, Scottish and wanted some sort of kilt designed? Do you really think Calvin would have behaved any better?

“If they let Jack do it his way the show would be just 12” – snorgtees.com

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