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Any other pilots see this?

posted 12 years ago by BiffTannen99
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i posted this in response to WorldPieceProd's review and felt the need to show it to all.........

Ha! I'm glad you called out worldpieceprod because I was just about to. If he (or She) is a commercial pilot then all their ratings need to be revoked! The director could have hired a student pilot with 15 hours as a technical expert and been better off. From the errors in aircraft systems to the inaccuracies of the flight characteristics and over to the mistakes in how one completes any GA flight, the aviation accuracy is about 3%. I'd made a drinking game where a sip was done for each aviation goof.........but I'd die of alcohol poisoning. I've listed a few below for your enjoyment (and information) worldpeice.

1. Yea...no one is renting a twin to high school girl with no instrument rating
2. 'Hypoxia starts at 13,000 feet!' Where does it say that? It varies per person and the FAR's say that over 14k only the pilot needs oxygen.
3. They all should have died about 20 min into the film from hypoxia from being at over 25k.....thus ending the misery for me much earlier.
4. Tower instructs "Hold Short or runway 15L" and she taxis out onto the runway.
5. "I can't turn the heater on!! It uses fuel!" Just like any car heat is obtained from air running over the engines. I like how they addressed the issue of cold once and never came back to it.
6. Her explanation of the issue of icing is appalling.....Why even bring it up?! Icing has nothing to do with the ailerons being blocked.
7. "We're too heavy!!! Need to dump everything to decrease our stall speed!" While that may be a fact, they may have gained 1/2 a knot on their speed with what they threw out.
8. I especially enjoyed how she tried to talk to center on the emergency frequency and then changed it to a center freq to make her mayday call.
9. "I just got through to ground! We're gonna make it!" What does talking to ground have anything to do with with the plane crashing?!

Yea I was gonna do 10 but niner is a lot better........ I didn't make this short list to call out all the flaws. I made it only to point out the sheer laziness and neglect for attention to detail this *beep* director had. Next time invest $100 and hire yourself ANYONE that has ever flown a small aircraft. Other then all that, not a bad film. Stay in the books worldpiece.....

[–] kascha-klaussen 10 years ago

1. Yeah I wondered about that too.
2. This is pretty much true
3. True
4. I noticed that too, but we hae to assume some time went by where they received takeoff clearance.
5. This.

6. She didn't say the ice was causing the aileron problem. She said the leading edge of the wings were icing over which would eventually kill the lift. This is true. But then I wondered why they wouldn't just keep climbing. The ailerons were stuck in such a position that the plane was climbing on its own. If they lost lift they would stall, but then when the plane dove they would speed up, the ice would fall off or melt in higher temperatures below, and the ailerons would level them off once achieving enough velocity in the dive to maintain lift. They would have the same issue again, but at a lower altitude.

7. True, that was absurd.
8. True, but I wouldn't expect them to have fussed over that since it wasn't really that vital to the plot that they use the right frequency.
9. They hadn't known where the ground was nor had they been able to reach anyone throughout the ordeal so reaching the ground was a huge deal.

I have flown Cessna 172s and 182s and am about half way to my license, so I am definitely not arguing or unsympathetic to your dismay, but I can also see where this whole thing wouldn't be so tantamount that they would dot all of these I's as well.

[–] hovaoc149 10 years ago

1. You missed the part at the start where she tells her friends , she had to pull some strings to obtain the booking. Didn't you notice how her knees were all dirty?
2. As you said it varies for each person so what she said might be true for some people on that plane.
3. At this point in the movie, no one knows exactly how high they were, it crossed into the realm of science fiction so anything goes.
4. Not sure what your talking about
5. She may be a pilot, but she's not a mechanic, she is under no obligation to know how the heater works in an aircraff. She decided not to turn the heater on just in case it might save fuel. Not a movie error, but a consequence of the novice pilot.
6. I thought the ailerons were being iced up due to the altitude. she was showing her concerns about this as she didnt want to lose the lift of the plane.
7. We dont know exactly what kind of luggage they had onboard. She guessed 100 pounds worth, but it might have been much more, we dont know.
8. She tried, but did she get through? another rookie mistake, not a movie mistake.
9. This I agree with.

[–] diverdriver 9 years ago

Multiengine planes don't have ducted heat from the engine to the cabin. They have combustion heaters in the nose. In my plane it uses .9 gallons per hour from the right wing tank. (Beech Duchess).
Overall the dialog with ATC was accurate. The writer must have had a pilot to consult with.

Lose not thy airspeed, lest the ground rise up and smite thee.