'They know that trick.'
Ah yes, the old chop your hand off to get out of going to prison trick. That one's easily the oldest in the book. Who in the world came up with that line?
shareAh yes, the old chop your hand off to get out of going to prison trick. That one's easily the oldest in the book. Who in the world came up with that line?
shareIt may be surprising but it is not the first time I've heard it said and possibly done. It's a more extreme form of literally shooting yourself in the foot to get out of combat in times of war.
shareI guess if your IQ is around room temperature, you're poor as dirt, you're wanted on several murder charges, and you've been smoking meth for two weeks... maybe... just maybe I could see someone thinking of this brilliant idea. But, has anyone ever actually gone through with it? Like, can you find me a real world example of someone actually doing this?
shareI've only heard it as anecdotal, never anyone confirmed to do it. Though I could find real life examples of people wounding themselves to get out of being deployed, I've never seen anyone who actually did cut off a hand to fake their death but I have no doubt there are people dumb and desperate enough to try it.
shareI would like to know why they cut his hands off instead of giving her back the body?
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I guessed it was because the body in general might show clues that would give away the murderer. Besides, the cover story -- "somebody threw this sack onto my porch" -- would be a lot less plausible if the whole body was involved.
True and I got the impression the body was heavy enough to sink the boat since it was frozen.
shareWhy take the woman to the body? Cut off the hands and fling them on her porch, less trouble and she won't know *beep*
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Why take the woman to the body?The idea was I think that in raising the corpse enough from the bottom of the pond to a point where they could remove the hands, Ree could see it was her father and stop searching.
Police had his fingerprints on file. That would convince her alright.
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The idea was I think that in raising the corpse enough from the bottom of the pond to a point where they could remove the hands, Ree could see it was her father and stop searching.I think they felt this form of closure would be more appropriate.
That's correct, the genre is macabre realism so fishing for the body was a necessary element of the story. It's also a form of violence.
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I wish it was just a gross detail made up. It's not. I'm sorry to say. Google it. Yuck.
shareYeah, because that's what I get every time I've ever helped chainsaw off my parents' hands. Closure.
I want the doctor to take your picture so I can look at you from inside as well.
Police had his fingerprints on file. That would convince her alright.
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Yeah, I'm sure that she'd take the hands to the police and say "Somebody threw these on the porch. Could you check and see if they are my Dad's?" Because if they aren't, she could be charged with involvement in some new murder. This is a family where nobody deals with the police if they can avoid it. Ree had to be sure that they were her Dad's hands before going out on a limb.
Ree was hopeless, so she'd have taken severed hands to police anyway. I doubt they'd try to go after her unless they had some other incriminating evidence.
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Why take the woman to the body? Cut off the hands and fling them on her porch, less trouble and she won't know *beep*
Not to say it is smart, clearly it is not, but the idea is to make law enforcement believe you are dead, so that they quit searching. Sure, if he gets caught, a ID search in NCIC will show future LEOs that he is supposed to be dead and may even offer more information, like him being wanted for other charges prior to his death. However, it is easier to avoid capture if no one is looking, because they believe him dead. It is even more likely that if he flees to another state that the local county or US Justice Department isn't going to update wanted files on a local drug dealer that was arrested for cooking meth...In reality, he wouldn't wouldn't even need to fake his death to avoid capture. For those charges, just leaving the state would probably be enough. Faking his death would be more of an attempt to not have his bond revoked. Sometimes, if a felony warrant from a county or two away pops up, they won't bother with extradition. I have ran someone that had robbery warrants, a violent crime, out of Ohio and requested extradition, and was denied a hold because they refused to send a YQ(dispatcher talk, I don't know what it means) and were not going to come to get the suspect...So, if he had convinced the courts or bond service that he was dead, by giving up a body part, and his bond was not revoked and the property or money was released, it would have worked and he would have been a free man. Maybe just free in the undocumented criminal world, but that is usually the circles that drug dealers travel in. It is an organized crime thing, probably not done so much in the hill billy meth cooking world, but they had them way to structured for the movie as it was, buy it's a movie, so whatever.
shareMr Handdropoff came out with that line!
Its that man again!!
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NotAnUndercoverCopĀ» Ah yes, the old chop your hand off to get out of going to prison trick. That one's easily the oldest in the book. Who in the world came up with that line?
Not really unbelievable. If you knew going to prison meant certain death - like if a rival gang was out to kill you once you were inside - cutting off a hand might be a reasonable option.
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