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So, instead of just throwing that bag on her porch (spoilers)

posted 9 years ago by jgroub
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They made her go out there and be a part of it? Forget that it's a decomposing dead body - her own f@cking father?

WHAT

THE

F@CK?

I mean, who the f@ck does that? Who? To a hardened adult criminal, maaaaaybe. And then only because they have f'd up in some extraordinary way as a message to the guy that you if you ever do this again, you'll be down there joining him.

But to a nice 17-year-old girl, who's never done anything wrong, who's never done anything to anyone? What's the point? They couldn't have just done it themselves and thrown the bag on her porch like she said? Nooooo, they had to involve her. A woman doesn't pull that sh!t on a girl. That d!ckface Thump, sure, maybe - but on a guy. But a woman to a girl? That's soooo beyond ridiculous.

To me, this movie is one gigantic boring circle jerk just designed to get us to that one scene. And that's just full-on total bullsh!t.

I want the doctor to take your picture so I can look at you from inside as well.

[–] kincaid-5 9 years ago

They're not helping her to be nice.

They have basically two choices -- as was said in the barn -- kill her or help her. Killing her presents a coupe of problems. First, by now it's all over the county that the Dollys beat a young girl almost to death, and Dollys really hate being talked about. If they kill her, there will be even more talk. Second, if they kill her, they'll have to answer to Teardrop, who's the meanest SOB in the county. Everyone around is afraid of Thump, but Thump is afraid of Teardrop.

So they have to help her. They were just hoping she would do all the nasty stuff for them.

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[–] jgroub 9 years ago

Sorry, I don't buy it. Not one little bit. Having her come and saw the hands off has more problems. Like her literally knowing where the bodies are buried. I'm sure Jessup wasn't the first person these people killed, and he won't be the last. And I doubt they've got a different pond for each of them.

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[–] kincaid-5 9 years ago

Ree won't snitch. She's a Dolly, bred and buttered, and she accepts the code of her family. A large part of the reason she's not more upset about the murder of her father is that she is sickened by the fact that he was about to turn state's evidence, which violates everything she believes.

Besides, if she ever did snitch, they really would kill her. They can't do it now, because the beat-down has already drawn unwanted public attention, but if she tries something later, she just disappears -- ate by hogs or wishing she was.

The risk of bringing her along is minimal. (Thump and his gang don't mind telling his wife and her sisters where to look.) The reasons they didn't just take her out there at first are (1) there is still a little risk, especially since they don't know that much about her at first, and (2) they don't want to be seen letting a young girl take charge of a situation. (It might give other girls ideas.) Teardrop's involvement changes everything.

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[–] jgroub 9 years ago

Oh, sure, just like her dad was a Dolly - who snitched. I never saw her be one ounce of upset at any particular thing. Upset, sure - she was upset the whole movie. But what is it that showed you that she was upset at her father snitching? She was upset before that came out in the movie, and upset after, too.

And this code of not snitching is BS. "This beat-down has drawn unwanted attention." What a load of horsesh!t. The only people who knew who beat her were the people in that room. Ree never told anyone - and in fact, by the time she got back up on her feet again, she said that she tripped or some sh!t. Nothing, and I mean nothing, traces her appearance back to the gang of people who beat her.

Unless they "snitched" - or more to the point, opened their mouths and told people that they had done it.

Not bringing her to the scene of her father's rotting corpse is not being "seen letting a young girl take charge of a situation." There is no situation for her to take charge of, because there is no situation - she wouldn't have been there.

As it actually happened, she DID take charge of the situation by refusing to use the chain saw to cut off her father's hands, so there goes your theory right there.

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[–] kincaid-5 9 years ago

OK, I probably shouldn't be continuing this, since you seem to be getting a bit hostile. But …

Oh, sure, just like her dad was a Dolly - who snitched. I never saw her be one ounce of upset at any particular thing. Upset, sure - she was upset the whole movie. But what is it that showed you that she was upset at her father snitching? She was upset before that came out in the movie, and upset after, too.

When she first hears that her father might have been talking to the cops, she can't believe it. It's a transgressive thing in this family, and Teardrop confronts Thump about not holding Ree responsible for Jessup doing such a despicable thing.

And this code of not snitching is BS. "This beat-down has drawn unwanted attention." What a load of horsesh!t. The only people who knew who beat her were the people in that room. Ree never told anyone - and in fact, by the time she got back up on her feet again, she said that she tripped or some sh!t. Nothing, and I mean nothing, traces her appearance back to the gang of people who beat her.

Unless they "snitched" - or more to the point, opened their mouths and told people that they had done it.

I don't know how it got out, but it did. (I may be at an advantage because I've read the book.) In the book, when Teardrop takes her around looking for clues, everywhere they go people keep staring at her and asking if that's the girl who got beaten up by the Dollys.

So that's not *beep*

Not bringing her to the scene of her father's rotting corpse is not being "seen letting a young girl take charge of a situation." There is no situation for her to take charge of, because there is no situation - she wouldn't have been there.

In this family -- the film doesn't do as good a job as it might showing that Dollys are not normal people even in this community -- women, and especially young girls, are not supposed to take initiative. Merab's first question was "Ain't you got no man to do this." Ree was breaking the rules by trying to find her father herself, and no one will do anything to help her -- until she's so persistent that she leaves them only with the two choices, kill or help. (And by that time, Teardrop is in the picture so they have to do something.) So they take her along, hoping that they can make her do the grisly stuff. They probably also didn't mind giving her a good gross-out, to remind her that she shouldn't mess with them.

Your initial assertion was that it wasn't credible that they would be so bestial as to expect her to saw off her own father's hands. They're Dollys -- they're capable of anything.

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[–] jgroub 9 years ago

Hostile? HOSTILE? Why, I'll throw you face first into a pond and chain saw off your goddamned hands, muthaf@cka! Then you'll see me hostile!

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I guess it comes down to this for me - the movie didn't do a good enough job of getting me there - there being the climactic chain saw scene. They didn't depict the Dollys as being the ultimate badasses you say they are, or this code of not snitching, or this thing about the women not taking initiative. Regardless of what was in the book, to me, none of that was on screen, so this ends up as being a failure of a movie for me. Just another well-made Lifetime movie, which is exactly the network where I saw it.

Which is not to say anything bad about the acting - they all did a fine job. I believed heart and soul that there is such a place where people live like this. But that doesn't mean it's a good story.

Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me, though.

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