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Woman beater this, woman beater that


Never to condone physical violence, especially against women but anger captures minds, some lose control, unfortunate things can happen. This is not to excuse violence becuz ppl should keep their hands to themselves, including Dr. Dre. But the narcissism of it all gets bothersome as it thinks its alright to judge Dre for what he settled and apologized for over 20 years ago.

A hard time accepting Dre's success people want to constantly demonize him becuz it was cut from the NWA biopic. The biopic of the rap group NWA, not the biopic of Dr. Dre. Still, there's a continuous, "woman beater this, woman beater that." Ok but in all fairness, lets talk woman beating & why no one repeatedly mentions the following....

Charlie Sheen pulling knives, twisting arms, spitting on, roughing up Denise Richards and Brooke Mueller... even calling Denise Richards a n*gg*r. Lol! Sorry but, what kind of sh*t is that? Lol.

Desi Arnez beating the hell out of Lucille Ball

Tommy Lee beating and throwing Pamela Anderson around like a damned rag doll.

Jimmy Page kidnapping and rape of a 14 year old that went on for 3 years

John Lennon unapologetic when he admitted beating women and his children

Alec Baldwin on the phone left a scathing message referring to his own daughter as a selfish pig just becuz she missed a call from him HIS OWN DAUGHTER!

Mickey Rourke kicking and slapping his wife

Steven Seagal beating on Kelly LaBrock

Mel Gibson going apesh*t and beating on Oksana Grigorieva

Sean Connery slapping his wife and later saying it's not a big deal to slap women around every once in a while (nonapologetic)

Nicholas Cage drunk and pushing his wife Alice Kim around

And let's not forget Sean Penn tying Madonna to a chair, proceeding to black both her eyes and beat the sh*t out of her ass for 9 hours straight.

Now, for every time a big mouth calls Dr. Dre a woman beater, I surely hope they'd be decent enough to mention these as well.

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Interesting I'll have to look this up!!

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I did not know most of these. It sucks that several actors I like are on this list.

People are discussing Dre because this is a forum about NWA. Talking about Gibson or Baldwin would be kind of random.

Also, talking about Dre without mentioning those others does not mean that one doesnt care about all those other cases. It would be silly if everyone who wanted to post a criticism of Dre or any of the others on your list also had to include a footnote of any other known woman beater just to be "fair". If you force the scope of the conversation to be that wide, it turns it into a pointlessly broad topic.

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You are absolutely right. That's exactly my point. What good is it to be so repetitious, continuously mentioning a person's faults that nobody can do anything about? (Years and years later) Too many people need to learn that bringing it to attention over and over, again and again (especially out of jealousy and spite) is absolutely pointless. This post is for those trying to bring this man down out of jealousy and spite. That's who I'm talking to, they know who they are.

Oh yeah, you can keep the affirmative token.

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I wasnt trying to be argumentative by saying that.

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The biopic of the rap group NWA, not the biopic or the autobiography of Dr. Dre.


The whole Dee Barnes incident WAS an important part of the N.W.A story though because it involved all the members and embodied one of the negative aspects of their music: misogyny.

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Of course it was an issue with NWA but for whatever reason, left out. Who knows the true reason. Nobody is attacking NWA though. People are only attacking Dr. Dre. If ppl are gonna look at it in such a way their only attacking him, they should wait til only HIS biopic alone comes out to do all that.

I haven't seen or heard anybody place what happened to Dee Barnes on NWA as a group. Everyone puts it on Dre. Though Dre was the only one that got physically abusive with her, its on him alone but, as stated before, it isn't his biopic. Putting it on NWA, maybe they'd be correct in criticizing the the film for leaving it out since the biopic is about them as a whole and not just Dre.

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How about some more *beep* beating woman:
Chris Brown vs Rhianna.


Then white *beep*
Eminem beating his wife Kim

Jusitn Bieber beating Selena Gomez

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It's never okay for a man to beat a woman, regardless of who he is. However, most people weren't aware of the others that you listed (at least I wasn't aware). I'm sure that if more people were aware they'd probably be just as critical and disgusted. Another issue with Dre is the fact that even though he's apologizing now, it doesn't seem sincere, especially since he wasn't apologetic at all during the times that it happened. In fact, he was very unapologetic. I remember him making light of the incident with Dee Barnes, while Ren bragged about it, saying that she deserved what she got and he hoped that she'd get it again. Then there's the fact that it wasn't just one time with one woman. There were several different instances with several different woman.

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Did you hear about the upcoming book about West Coast Gangsta Rap called, Original Gangstas? They talk about it here: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/new-n-w-biography-original-gangstas-stunning-read-article-1.2768428

Then there's this disturbing tidbit about Dre:

Dr. Dre, real name Andre Young, was a brilliant musician but a nasty, nasty man. At 17, he had his first child, Curtis, whom he didn't acknowledge for decades. Dre was busy seducing 14-year-old Lisa Johnson. Johnson gave birth in 1983, but by the time she was pregnant again, she discovered another women was also carrying Dre's child.

According to Johnson, Dre beat her five times over the course of the last two pregnancies.

Michel’le Toussaint has bravely gone public, often and loudly, with the story of her repeated abuse at the hands of Dre.

Toussaint, who had a son, Marcel, with Dre and later married Suge Knight, says Dre repeatedly beat her and once broke her nose so badly she had to have a nose job. One night he fired a shot that barely missed her.

Then came the public beatings of rapper Tairrie B and television host Dee Barnes.

Tairrie B had signed with Eazy E's label, Ruthless Records. She and Dre got into a vicious fight at a Grammys after-party in 1990. Dre punched her "hard, really" hard in the eye and followed up with a shot to the mouth that sent her sprawling to the ground.

Barnes might have gotten it even worse.

She tells a sanitized version of what actually happened the horrific night in 1991 when Dre savagely beat her at a record-release party in a West Hollywood nightclub.

Dre wasn't happy with a segment about NWA that Barnes hosted on her show "Pump It Up." Instead of a hello, Dre greeted Barnes with a punch to her face so hard that she went down like a sack of potatoes. He then grabbed her by the hair, repeatedly slamming her into a brick wall.

His bodyguard held back the crowd while he kicked her and tried to push her down a flight of stairs. She fled to the bathroom and Dre came after her, beating her more.

"I was thinking, 'he's trying to kill me,'" Barnes recalls.

Dre was hustled out before the cops and an ambulance arrived — and the court gave him a wrist-slap sentence of community service.

While Dre's long, happy marriage to Nicole Threatt has produced two children, Johnson claims he only grudgingly supported his out of wedlock children.

She goes on to say, that in 2004, a badly shaken Dre by an assault he believed Suge Knight had paid for, showed up at Johnson's home at midnight, promising $500,000 to the family of four.

The money never materialized.

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