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Off-Topic-ish - Popular Movies and Me Not Being Remotely Interested In Them


Sometimes, when I hear a movie has made a bunch of money, I find myself scratching my head.

I remember when The Lord of the Rings movie was coming out for the first time. I'd just read the books and was thrilled. After watching it, I was ecstatic because it was so good and so true to the books.

Now, when a movie comes out and people rave about it, I usually find it to be mediocre at best. I don't know if it's me getting older or some kind of mental illness, but I just don't get the hype of movies that the majority of people love. \

Like Mad Max: Fury Road. I honestly thought it sucked, but most people I've spoken to adore it. I despise Lala Land. Despise. I'm not interested in Guardians of the Galaxy. I thought Beauty & the Beast reeked of mediocrity. I found The Jungle Book boring. These are just some examples.

And now IT is a huge box office darling and, while I didn't hate it, I definitely didn't love it. Am I crazy?

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Mediocracy is the best thing people can hope for these days. All a movie has to have in it now is a thorough spectacle that doesn't take more than a five minute lapse until the end credits.

"And now IT is a huge box office darling and, while I didn't hate it, I definitely didn't love it. Am I crazy?"

You should have found a theater with louder speakers. I think the loudness of the jump scares is what everyone is impressed with in this film.

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Hahahaha. I'm so desensitized to jump scares that I guess I miss out on all the 'good' moments in movies. But really I think you're not wrong - expectations are pretty low for movies now.

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I’ve never thought that you are crazy. Mass-market entertainment is about making money, not art. You mention The Lord of the Rings. When I saw The Fellowship of the Ring, extended edition, I thought, “The people who made this did it out of love. There is MUCH more effort and detail put into this than was needed to make money.” In contrast, the Hobbit bloatfest, churned out by the same folks, had none of TLOTR’s charm and love. Hobbit was a cynical cash-grab, and this leads to another point. Movies, especially EVENT movies (fantasy, sci-fi, comic books, video games) have been formulated. Look at The Hobbit again: rapid-fire CGI, pointless action and bombast, characters and story elements pulled out of thin air and not from the mind of J.R.R Tolkien. Everything moves so fast that only really, really smart peoples will notice that most of it doesn’t make actual sense. And then end it all with a TWIST. The Hobbit eschewed that trope, but only because most people know how the book ends, and they couldn’t risk changing the ending. Twists have become expected by young audiences, and they feel a story without a twist is just WRONG. Last year, on the Big Little Lies boards, one poster complained about the resolution of the murder mystery. He lamented that it can’t end this was, because it wasn’t a TWIST. No, It wasn’t; instead, it was an exceptionally well-crafted, written and acted compelling drama that, not for nothing, won five Emmies. These days, I actually find better and more daring entertainment on premium cable than I do in movies. I think the modern big mass-market movie is the visual and aural equivalent of putting the whole audience on a drip that is a combination of equal parts pure sugar and pure morphine for the length of the film.

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Everyone must be a genius then because most people, even people who enjoyed the Hobbit films, realized it didn't make sense. But these same people will be like 'Jurassic World is the best Jurassic Park movie made!' Is it?

Your point about there being a twist in things is interesting. When I watched A Wrinkle in Time earlier this year, I felt like it was missing something like a twist as well. But not exactly. Just like the Hobbit films, the movie keeps up a rapid pace for the most part, but nothing is really happening. And in the end, nothing feels resolved. If there are any twists in the film, they don't feel like twists because there are no stakes. And so imho it's not a twist that's missing, but value. Same as the Hobbit films. The twist hasn't been earned so it has no value.

It's really weird because when it comes to book-to-film adaptations, aren't the arguments mostly about how little the film resembled the book? Yet this keeps happening - so if it's about money, why aren't filmmakers trying to make as much of it as possible by ruling out commonplace mistakes such as these?

And as I've said before, TV is where all the creativity is at - but at the moment, I feel like that's on the cusp of changing because TV is becoming so...monetized? Not that it wasn't before, but almost everyone has Netflix or something like it now. I don't even remember the last time I watched 'normal' tv.

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You are not crazy. It was just a mediocre, bad movie. Horror is not my genre anyway, but I love The Shining, for example. I doubt It will be talked about even 10 years in the future, surely not in the way The Shining is.

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Probably because most mainstream films coming out of Hollywood are terrible and made for mass market audiences in every continent. Also social media has lead to more bandwagoning with people praising a movie to high heavens when they don’t realize they’re just a product of the marketing machine.

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