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I can't believe no-one has noticed the similarity in this film to Battle Royale!
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Actually, I can't believe people don't realize how similar Battle Royale is to other, previous books, stories, what have you. I do not know how many books I have read or listened to that have similar plots or situations in them going back to the Industrial age.
Doesn't any one read anymore? BR might find it has plagiarized the same or similar ideas from other stories. What is totally shocking to me is that no one is talking about issues that the story brings up and the similarities between either story and today. It totally blows my mind how stupid this world has become and especially the US after the Bush/Cheney administration. It seems as if the entire country was dummied down quite a bit so people wouldn't realize what the hell was going on with the Patriot Act and how it was so apparently stupid to start two wars.
When the movie V for Vendetta came out, Some Americans thought it was about the US when the story was based in England. How is that for arrogance and self contentedness.
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Hey, Atheists are not bad people and usually are not this obnoxious when talking about a lot of things. lol
shareYou have something in common with Suzanne Collins. She had not heard of Battle Royale until she submitted The Hunger Games for publication. The editor who read her manuscript said something along the lines of how the book was slightly similar to Battle Royale. Suzanne responded by asking if she should read it. The editor said no, wait until she had completed the story arc so it would not be influenced. I wonder why no one mentions this (it is documented in many interviews) when they discuss the similarities. Instead they yell "plagiarism" or "ripped off" and do not even think it is possible that two authors could possibly have a similar "basic" story-line without having heard of each other.
There have been hundreds (if not thousands) of inventions that were simultaneously invented by more than one person; including the cotton gin, the radio, using electricity, light bulbs, and the telephone, where the inventors had no idea someone else was working on the project. The names in the history books though are the "first" ones to patent their ideas. The point is - it happens every day when someone comes up with something they think is unique but someone else, somewhere else, has already thought of it.
Are you really this ignorant of literary themes or are just pretending. LOTF deals with the theme of betrayal as much as anything else. That is the main theme of BR but you wouldn't know that because you don't understand what the book was about. So what does LOTF have to do with BR, in both stories friend turns on friend to save their lives. It's a huge theme in both books, but you probably missed it because you were too busy listing obscure anime TV series that were never shown on TV in the US. And LOTF has nothing really to do with THG because the main theme of betrayal is not a main theme in that book.
This is the big difference between props in a film and the plot of a book.
Well, for one thing, that list you just made is bull. Some are based on historical events, some are science fiction and other types of fiction. I do not see any that fall under the genre of dystopian fiction, excpet maybe The Running Man because it is in a potential future, and some of them I have never heard before.
Secondly, do you know what dystopian diction is in literature? Gulliver's Travels is considered one of the first, however, in that story, there was no break down of society/governmental unease or tension.
Thirdly, It is hard for me to assess whether you are being sincerely curious or are trying to be a know-it-all, "I am always right" smart ass who is try8ing to be cute. But one thing that still surprises me is the lack of required reading since GWB took office and the fact that I lived in the time before cell phones, kindle, audio books, tablets, laptops, cable tv, even desktop computers, and even cordless phones and DVD players and Netflix. You see, we could not just look things up on the internet because there was no internet and although my family was very wealthy and we did in fact have one of the first microwave ovens that costs over $600.00 and the first VCR which cost about the same and hell, I even had my own color tv and vamped up stereo system and Walkman.So instead of looking up cliff notes on the internet, we actually had to read thee things.
You see, long ago when I was in junior high school, we had an entire year where we read short stories and novels in the dystopian fiction genre for young adult, because they were required reading. These books dealt with a lot of societal, governmental, norms, mores and taboos which ranged from very primitive to highly advanced. These novels were futuristic and there was a bit of science mixed into the story as well. These stories go back to the 1800s until the present.
Lastly, however, and this may or may not be true, may have gotten so far on your high horse that you completely misread, read into or did not understand the point I was trying to make. Here is your little quote:
Your post seems to indicate that there was some work before Battle Royale/Hunger Games which had the same plot, story and premise as Battle Royale/Hunger Games. If so, could you name it?
In reality, I NEVER said that there were stories that had the SAME PLOT or STORY, and the word "premise" can be taken several different ways. If you are meaning that they are similar in the idea that would be correct. They are similar in theme but different in reasoning. Is that something you can understand? Now, this is the quote you threw in my face:
I can't believe people don't realize how similar Battle Royale is to other, previous books, stories, what have you."
If you are paying attention and will notice, I said nothing about any book being the SAME story as Battle Royale and you will also notice I said SIMILAR meaning very close to but not quite, you know like a German Sheppard and a Manchester, both are dogs but different breeds and appearance.
Well, this might come to a surprise, but stories are like that as well. They can be similar and point out something in society that relates to a historical event the way "The House Of Stairs" can be a loosely based book on conformity and the problems with it, much the same way as Nazi Germany. John CHristopher's Tripod Series that involves an alien race who lives on and controls the earth but strips humans of their free will and personality, the things that make us human, very similar to totalitarianism countries or dumbing down an entire nation and sell them a lemon the way the US was during the Bush/Cheney administration with the passing of the Patriot Act which is also similar to Margaret Atwoods "The Handmaid's Tale" in which gender plays an important role and the US becomes a theocracy which is eventually defeated but strips women, homosexuals, free thinkers of civil rights and becomes misogynistic in nature. Or, what about George Lucas's final directorial project that became his first movie THX-1136 where the citizens are given a budget on their worth and cost to the powers that be and are given a routine drug regimen to temper any aggressive act, but also takes away the ability to care, feel love, concern or caring.
If you just would have been able to understand that "similar" and "same" mean two different things and that stories/books/movies can be similar in theme but different in reasoning and circumstance. Can you please tell me what was so hard to understand about that? Did I not explain it well enough so that you could understand that whomever wrote Battle Royale was probably inspired not just from one book or story, but several and came up with his own thing. I really do not know offhand of a book that is exactly like either of them, so it was no based on one single thing or idea and ideas and things that are there for every one and no one owns them. If it was the case that it was exact in every way with no deviation only different characters, then yes, it would be plagiarism. But the guy who wrote Battle Royale does not own any dystopian ideas. Did it ever dawn on you that every song, poem or story has was inspired by some thing else or a historical event. Hell, look at the 80s slasher movies. Most of them were similar if not carbon copies and no one was whining about stealing someone's idea. Same *beep* teens or young adults go out into the woods, but there is a crazed killer, crazed killer kills said young people one by one, but someone gets away from him or people start to figure it out. For some stupid reason, the group decides to go looking for him and splits up, goes into a house or something and says "Hello" as if the killer will answer "yes, I'm in the kitchen do you want a sandwich?" even thought they out number him, they seems to freak out, a girls bra becomes unbuttoned and you get a flash scene, or a couple are about to have sex when he comes, or a bunch of girls start screaming and just watch as the killer chops off the limbs of their friend, finally, he "dies" one maybe two people survive, then the killers body disappears. That was the plot for how many movies and you cannot understand the concept of similar or inspired by as being the same. If you cannot understand that, then nothing else I can say will teach you. I am not your parent or teacher so go ask them. Oh, and I hope you know how to google. Here is some literature through the 1800a to just recent. See if any of them will soothe your mind.
A Sojourn in the City of Amalgamation, in the Year of Our Lord, 19-- (1835)by Oliver Bolokitten[2]
The World As It Shall Be (1846) by Émile Souvestre[3]
Paris in the Twentieth Century (1863) by Jules Verne.
Vril, the Power of the Coming Race (1871) by Edward Bulwer-Lytton, originally printed as The Coming Race[4]
Erewhon (1872) by Samuel Butler.
The Begum's Fortune (1879) by Jules Verne.[5]
The Fixed Period (1882) by Anthony Trollope.
The Republic of the Future (1887) by Anna Bowman Dodd[6]
The Inner House (1888) by Walter Besant.[5]
Caesar's Column (1890) by Ignatius L. Donnelly[7]
Pictures of the Socialistic Future (1890) by Eugen Richter [8]
The Time Machine (1895) by H. G. Wells[9]
When The Sleeper Wakes (1899) by H. G. Wells[5]
The First Men in the Moon (1901) by H. G. Wells[5]
The Iron Heel (1908) by Jack London[5][9]
Lord of the World (1908) by Robert Hugh Benson
The Machine Stops (1909) by E. M. Forster[5]
Trylogia Księżycowa (1901-1911) by Jerzy Żuławski[
The Air Trust (1915) by George Allan England [5]
City of Endless Night (as "Children of Kultur") (1919) by Milo Hastings [5]
The Heads of Cerberus (1919) by "Francis Stevens" (Gertrude Barrows Bennett)[11]
Philip Dru: Administrator (1912) by (Edward Mandell House)
"The City of the Living Dead" (1930) by Laurence Manning and Fletcher Pratt [3]
Brave New World (1932) by Aldous Huxley[5][9]
The New Gods Lead (1932) by S. Fowler Wright [3]
To Tell The Truth... (1933) by Amabel Williams-Ellis [14]
It Can't Happen Here (1935) by Sinclair Lewis
Land Under England (1935) by Joseph O'Neill [15]
We Have Been Warned (1935) by Naomi Mitchison [16]
War with the Newts (1936) by Karel Čapek
In the Second Year (1936) by Storm Jameson [17]
Swastika Night (1937) by Katharine Burdekin [11]
The Wild Goose Chase (1937) by Rex Warner [5][18]
Anthem (1938) by Ayn Rand[5][19]
Out of the Silent Planet (1938) by C.S. Lewis[20][21]
Invitation to a Beheading by (1938) by Vladimir Nabokov [22]
The Arrogant History of White Ben (1939) by Clemence Dane [17]
Impromptu in Moribundia (1939) by Patrick Hamilton [23]
Over the Mountain (1939) by Ruthven Todd [22]
1940s
Darkness at Noon (1940) by Arthur Koestler[24]
"If This Goes On—" (1940) by Robert A. Heinlein[5]
Kallocain (1940) by Karin Boye[25]
The Aerodrome (1941) by Rex Warner [26]
Perelandra (1943) by C.S. Lewis[20][21]
Cities of the Plain (1943) by Alex Comfort [27]
The Riddle of the Tower (1944) by J. D. Beresford and Esmé Wynne-Tyson [28]
That Hideous Strength (1945) by C.S. Lewis[19]
Animal Farm (1945) by George Orwell
Bend Sinister (1947) by Vladimir Nabokov[29]
Doppelgangers (1947) by Gerald Heard [5]
Ape and Essence (1948) by Aldous Huxley[5]
Sometime Never: A Fable for Supermen by Roald Dahl
Nineteen Eighty-Four (1949) by George Orwell[9][30]
1950s
The Day of the Triffids (1951) by John Wyndham
Limbo, (vt. Limbo 90) (1952) by Bernard Wolfe[5]
Player Piano (also known as Utopia 14) (1952) by Kurt Vonnegut[31]
Fahrenheit 451 (1953) by Ray Bradbury[5][9]
One (also published as Escape to Nowhere) (1953) by David Karp[32]
Love Among the Ruins (1953) by Evelyn Waugh[19]
The Foundation Pit (1953) by Andrey Platonov [33]
The Space Merchants (1953) by Frederik Pohl and C. M. Kornbluth [34]
Lord of the Flies (1954) by William Golding[9]
Tunnel in the Sky (1955) by Robert A. Heinlein
The Chrysalids (1955) by John Wyndham[9]
The City and the Stars (1956) by Arthur C. Clarke
The Golden Archer: A Satirical Novel of 1975 (1956) by Gregory Mason [35]
Minority Report (1956) by Philip K. Dick
Atlas Shrugged (1957) by Ayn Rand
Alas, Babylon (1959) by Pat Frank
1960s
Facial Justice (1960) by L. P. Hartley[36]
A Canticle for Leibowitz (1960) by Walter M. Miller
"Harrison Bergeron" (1961) by Kurt Vonnegut[37]
The Joy Makers (1961) by James Gunn [3]
The Old Men at the Zoo (1961) by Angus Wilson [38]
A Clockwork Orange (1962) by Anthony Burgess
The Wanting Seed (1962) by Anthony Burgess
Planet of the Apes (1963) by Pierre Boulle
Cloud On Silver (US title Sweeney's Island) (1964) by John Christopher[39]
Farnham's Freehold (1964) by Robert A. Heinlein
Nova Express (1964) by William S. Burroughs[5]
The Penultimate Truth (1964) by Philip K. Dick[5]
Epp (1965) by Axel Jensen[5]
Logan's Run (1967) by William F. Nolan and George Clayton Johnson
Make Room! Make Room! (1966) by Harry Harrison[5]
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (1968) by Philip K. Dick
Stand on Zanzibar (1968) by John Brunner[5]
Camp Concentration (1968) by Thomas M. Disch [38]
The Jagged Orbit (1969) by John Brunner[5]
The White Mountains (1967) by John Christopher[5]
The City of Gold and Lead (1968) by John Christopher[5]
The Pool of Fire (1968) by John Christopher[5]
1970s
This Perfect Day (1970) by Ira Levin[40]
The Bodyguard (1970) by Adrian Mitchell [5]
The Lathe of Heaven (1971) by Ursula K. Le Guin[41]
The Sheep Look Up (1972) by John Brunner[5]
334 (1972) by Thomas M. Disch [11]
Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said (1974) by Philip K. Dick[42]
Walk to the End of the World (1974) by Suzy McKee Charnas [5]
The Shockwave Rider (1975) by John Brunner[5]
High-Rise (1975) by JG Ballard
Solution Three (1975) by Naomi Mitchison [3]
The Girl Who Owned a City (1975) by O. T. Nelson
Woman on the Edge of Time (1976) by Marge Piercy [5]
The Dark Tower[43] (1977) - unfinished, attributed to C.S. Lewis,[43] published as The Dark Tower and Other Stories
A Scanner Darkly (1977) by Philip K. Dick[44]
The Turner Diaries (1978) by William L. Pierce (under the pseudonym "Andrew Macdonald")
Alongside Night (1979) by J. Neil Schulman[45]
The Long Walk (1979) by Stephen King under the pseudonym Richard Bachman
1980s
Riddley Walker (1980) by Russell Hoban[46][47]
Lanark: A Life in Four Books (1981) by Alasdair Gray [48]
The Running Man (1982) by Stephen King under the pseudonym Richard Bachman[9]
Sprawl trilogy: Neuromancer (1984),[9] Count Zero (1986) and Mona Lisa Overdrive (1988) by William Gibson[49][50]
The Handmaid's Tale (1985) by Margaret Atwood[5][9]
Ender's Game (1985) by Orson Scott Card
Watchmen (1986-1987) by Alan Moore (writer), and David Gibbons (artist)
In the Country of Last Things (1987) by Paul Auster.
Obernewtyn Chronicles (1987–2008) by Isobelle Carmody[51]
The Domination (1988) by S. M. Stirling[52]
V for Vendetta (1988-1989) by Alan Moore (writer), and David Lloyd (illustrator).
When the Tripods Came (1988) by John Christopher[5]
1990s
Fatherland (1992) by Robert Harris[53]
The Children of Men (1992) by P.D. James[9][54]
Parable of the Sower (1993) by Octavia E. Butler [11]
The Giver (1993) by Lois Lowry[55]
Virtual Light (1993) by William Gibson
Gun, with Occasional Music (1994) by Jonathan Lethem[56]
The Diamond Age, or A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer (1995) by Neal Stephenson[57]
Infinite Jest (1996) by David Foster Wallace
Underworld (1997) by Don DeLillo[19]
The Right to Read (1997) by Richard Stallman
Among the Hidden (1998, first in the Shadow Children series) by Margaret Peterson Haddix
Battle Royale (1999) by Koushun Takami[58]
The Ice People (1999) by Maggie Gee
21st century
2000s
Scorch (2000) by A.D. Nauman [59]
Noughts and Crosses (2001) by Malorie Blackman[60]
Ella Minnow Pea (2001) by Mark Dunn
Mortal Engines (2001, first in Hungry City Chronicles) by Philip Reeve
Among the Betrayed (2002, third in the Shadow Children series) by Margaret Peterson Haddix
Feed (2002) by M. T. Anderson[61]
The House of the Scorpion (2002) by Nancy Farmer
Jennifer Government (2003) by Max Barry
The City of Ember (2003) by Jeanne DuPrau
Oryx and Crake (2003) by Margaret Atwood[62]
Manna (2003) by Marshall Brain[63][non-primary source needed]
Among the Brave (2004, fifth in the Shadow Children series) by Margaret Peterson Haddix
The People of Sparks (2004) by Jeanne DuPrau
Knife Edge (2004) by Malorie Blackman[64]
The Bar Code Tattoo (2004) by Suzanne Weyn
Cloud Atlas (2004) by David Mitchell[65]
The Plot Against America (2004) by Philip Roth
Checkmate (2005) by Malorie Blackman[66]
Divided Kingdom (2005) by Rupert Thomson[67]
Never Let Me Go (2005) by Kazuo Ishiguro[67] [68][not specific enough to verify]
Among the Enemy (2005, sixth in the Shadow Children series) by Margaret Peterson Haddix
Uglies (2005) by Scott Westerfeld
Pretties (2005) by Scott Westerfeld
Among the Free(2006,seventh in the Shadow Children series) by Margaret Peterson Haddix
Specials (2006) by Scott Westerfeld
Armageddon's Children (2006) by Terry Brooks[9]
Bar Code Rebellion (2006) by Suzanne Weyn.
The Road (2006) by Cormac McCarthy[69]
The Book of Dave (2006) by Will Self[70][not specific enough to verify]
Day of the Oprichnik (День Опричника) (2006) by Vladimir Sorokin[71]
Genesis (2006) by Bernard Beckett[72][unreliable source?]
Incarceron (2007) by Catherine Fisher
Unwind (2007) by Neal Shusterman
The Pesthouse (2007) by Jim Crace[73][not specific enough to verify]
Extras (2007) by Scott Westerfeld
From the New World (2008) by Yusuke Kishi
Blind Faith (2007) by Ben Elton
Gone (2008) by Michael Grant
World Made By Hand (2008) by James Howard Kunstler
Sapphique (2007) by Catherine Fisher
The Declaration (2008) by Gemma Malley[74]
The Host (2008) by Stephenie Meyer[75][non-primary source needed]
Double Cross (2008) by Malorie Blackman[76]
The Hunger Games (2008) by Suzanne Collins[77][78]
The Resistance (2008) by Gemma Malley[79]
The Forest of Hands and Teeth (2009) by Carrie Ryan[80]
The Maze Runner (2009) by James Dashner[
The Year of the Flood (2009) by Margaret Atwood[82][non-primary source needed]
Shades of Grey (2009) by Jasper Fforde
Catching Fire (2009) by Suzanne Collins
Z213: Exit (2009) by Dimitris Lyacos
Last Light (2007) by Alex Scarrow[citation needed]
The Windup Girl (2009) by Paolo Bacigalupi
The Passage (2010) by Justin Cronin[citation needed]
The Envy Chronicles (2010) by Joss Ware[citation needed]
Matched (2010) by Ally Condie[83]
Monsters of Men (2010) by Patrick Ness[citation needed]
Mockingjay (2010) by Suzanne Collins[citation needed]
Rondo (2010) by John Maher[citation needed]
Delirium (2010) by Lauren Oliver[citation needed]
Super Sad True Love Story (2010) by Gary Shteyngart[citation needed]
The Scorch Trials (2010) by James Dashner[citation needed]
The Prophecies (2011-2012) by Linda Hawley[citation needed]
Wither (2011) by Lauren DeStefano[citation needed]
Wool (2011-2012) by Hugh Howey[84]
Across The Universe (2011) by Beth Revis[citation needed]
Divergent (2011) by Veronica Roth[85]
Crossed (2011) by Ally Condie[86]
Legend (2011) by Marie Lu
Shatter Me (2011) by Tahereh Mafi[87]
The Death Cure (2011) by James Dashner[citation needed]
Insurgent (2012) by Veronica Roth[citation needed]
Ready Player One (2011) by Ernest Cline
Article 5 by Kristen Simmons
Crewel (2012) by Gennifer Albin[88]
Under the Never Sky (2012) by Veronica Rossi[89]
Revealing Eden (2012) by Victoria Foyt[90]
Reached (2012) by Ally Condie
Agenda 21 (2012) by Glenn Beck
Blood Zero Sky (2012) by J. Gabriel Gates
Dominion (2012) by C.J. Sansom
Bleeding Edge (2013) by Thomas Pynchon[91]
MaddAddam (2013) by Margaret Atwood [92]
Prodigy (2013) by Marie Lu
The 5th Wave (2013) by Rick Yancey
Allegiant (2013) by Veronica Roth
Champion (2013) by Marie Lu
The Bone Season (2013) by Samantha Shannon[93]
The Circle (2013) by Dave Eggers[94]
The Last Human (2014) by Ink Pieper[95]
J (2014) by Howard Jacobson
The Lockdown (2014) by Dixon Block[96]
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The Hunger Games has been alleged a ripoff of Battle Royale, and therefore plagarism, or alleged plagarism, is whooly on topic just as much as any Team Peeta-loving mother's son.
As far as I can see you, OP, are the only one bringing up Battle Royale. Perhaps you thought this was the board for the latter Hunger Games movies, which rip not BR off bur BR2??
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In the battle royale/battle royale 2, the game itself was only a small fraction of the plot. It was used to paint the larger picture. In fact, in both the book and the Battle Royale 2 film, the games didn't start until about 1/2 or 2/3 in. There were a lot of more going on outside of the games. Overall, the hunger battle royale (book) was about a boy navigate himself through a series of event that revolutionized the world she lives in (Japen). The love triangle and the games were merely subplots of the larger picture. There were other equally (or more) important subplots such as political propaganda, the famine, detailed descriptions of the world...etc.
shareI can't believe people don't realize how similar Battle Royale is to other, previous books, stories, what have you.
Hello. Your post seems to indicate that there was one or more titles before Battle Royale/Hunger Games which had the same plot, story and premise as Battle Royale/Hunger Games. If so, could you share it with us?
Thanks in advance!!
P. S. The following titles have been processed and none qualify:
Theseus and The Minotaur
Gladiator
300
Troy
Spartacus
Running Man
Blade Runner
The Long Walk
Roller Ball
The Omega Man
Wedlock
Zardoz
Divergent
The Most Dangerous Game (short story)
The Lord of the Flies
The Island
Fantasy Island (tv)
Shutter Island
Gilligan's Island (tv)
Punishment Park
Jurassic Park
The 10th Victim
The Third Generation
Series 7
The Quinlillion objective
The prize of peril
Clockwork Orange
The Lottery (short story)
Minority Report
The Prize of Peril
Mobile Fighter G Gundam
The Raid: Redemption
Deadly Game (tv)
Spy Kids 3-D: Game Over
Ender's Game
Patriot Games
Reindeer Games
Death Race 2000
The Shining
Alphaville
The Model Couple
Helsinki Napoli
And Then There Were None
Star Trek episode: The Gamesters of Triskelion (tv)
Star Trek episode: Bread and Circuses (tv)
Star Trek episode: The Doomsday Machine (tv)
Ancient Rome and the Gladiators. (real life history).
Anything by Stephen King (although Takami said he was influenced by him.)
Anything by Nigel Keene
Anything by Philip K. Dick
Anything by Richard Matheson
Anything by Harlan Ellison
Just one (1) will do. Again: Thanks !! share
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