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The Hunger Games and Battle Royale are too much alike.


Having just finished The Hunger Games, I am a bit shocked that the book was ever published, when it is almost a carbon copy of Battle Royale. Now I know that Battle Royale's author was japanese, but doesn't he have some sort of copyright protection in place, especially since he published in North America years before The Hunger Games? Even if Suzanne Collins swears that she came up with the idea on her own (and I do believe her), her publishers must have known about the books similarities to Battle Royale, yet they went ahead and published The Hunger Games anyway.

I mean, consider the following, keeping in mind Battle Royale was published in 1999 and The Hunger Games in 2008:

1. Both books feature a "last boy/girl" standing "game", in which teenagers are put in an arena and expected to fight to the death, winner gets to live.

2. In both books, these games are conducted by fascist governments as a way to keep an unruly population under control.

3. The children are chosen at random in both books. In The Hunger Games its one boy and one girl per district, in Battle Royale the combatants are all from the same randomly selected highschool class.

4. In both books, at the end of the day the dead players are announced by loudspeaker. The Hunger Games added the detail of having the dead children's faces put up in the sky with a projector.

5. In both books, characters are killed with poisonous food.

6. In both books, more than one character makes it out alive, and the survivors have romantic entanglements.

7. In both books, traps drive the combatants towards one another (though the way it was handled in Battle Royale was "smarter" - instead of random disasters, people knew ahead of time which zones would become dangerous, and this allowed for deeper strategy than The Hunger Games could offer, in which "random events happen as the plot demands").

And I'm upset about it, for a variety of reasons. First, Collins' success has basically shut down any sort of big budget Hollywood adaptation of Battle Royale (which I was really looking forward to!), second Battle Royale was the superior work yet never got the kind of recognition it should have (and now probably never will, because of the popularity of The Hunger Games overshadowing it), likely because Koushoun Takami was japanese and therefore not seen as worth the time to pimp in North America.

Basically, I think that Battle Royale was the smarter work, so in my mind it deserves more credit and the author deserves all those big royalties from a hollywood blockbuster - Not Suzzane Collins, whose The Hunger Games is filled with contrivances to advance the plot for example, mutant zombie werewolves come out of nowhere to save Katniss the trouble of finishing off Cato in his battle armor, a stupid love triangle, and a shallow Mary Sue character as the lead. It's just not fair, dammit!

Anyways, don't want to rant forever, and I've said my piece, but what do you all think? Is The Hunger Games too similar to Battle Royale? Or does The Hunger Games stand on its own two feet and deserves the praise it has received?

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How many times does this make that you have 'just finished reading The Hunger Games?'

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only a die hard japanophile would consider HG a BR rip off.
..Or, you know, someone who's seen the actual movie.

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How many times does this make that you have 'just finished reading The Hunger Games?'
Um ...probably about one.

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So...when you wrote in March:

Hunger games has no heart. reads as though it was forced out in 3 months. You dont care about the characters because the book dosnt make you feel any connection to their stories. BR, you got so deep into peoples backstory that when they died or killed you cared. Mitsu would have wreaked Kat and raped her while doing it.

You hadn't actually read the book? Makes it kind of hard to take you seriously.

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Never to be published, if this is the standard of your writing.

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I won't hold my breath waiting.

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Good thing this book of yours is only metaphorical. Your train of thought tends to wander off track fairly quickly.

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Quite right. All those "adults" who read Harry
Potter, step forward........

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Yeah, it's a highly sanitized version of Battle Royale which was originally brutal and the characters were not "Mary Sue" types. The characters were realistic with flaws.

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Why did they replace all the violent stuff from BATTLE ROYALE with stuff from TWILIGHT in this remake, anyway?

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To reply to your points one-by-one:

1. Both books feature a "last boy/girl" standing "game", in which teenagers are put in an arena and expected to fight to the death, winner gets to live.

Battle Royale invented this genre. "Bunch of people forced to fight to the death; last one standing gets to live" is a story that's been around a while. Making the combatants teenagers makes it unique.

2. In both books, these games are conducted by fascist governments as a way to keep an unruly population under control.

So they're both copying the Japanese Pro-wrestling's "bread and circuses" modern day gladiator games.

3. The children are chosen at random in both books. In The Hunger Games its one boy and one girl per district, in Battle Royale the combatants are all from the same randomly selected highschool class.

Given the basic premise, the most obvious ways of selecting combatants would be random selection, choosing people who have pissed off the government in some way, or picking on an oppressed minority. The first really drives home the capriciousness of the regime in a way the second doesn't, and the third introduces a social dynamic to the hypothetical future that would distract from other stuff the authors were aiming at. Collins plagiarized all three

4. In both books, at the end of the day the dead players are announced by loudspeaker. The Hunger Games added the detail of having the dead children's faces put up in the sky with a projector.

Its hard to improve on perfection

5. In both books, characters are killed with poisonous berries.

Very rare plot device.

6. In both books, more than one character makes it out alive, and the survivors have romantic entanglements.

The first part serves to make it less of a downer and/or subvert the expectation that the game set up; generally speaking, if a story tells you early on how things are gonna pan out, how things actually pan out is gonna be more complicated. As for the second part, do you have any idea how many stories end with characters embarking on a romantic relationship? That sort of ending is far, far too common for anyone in recorded history to take credit for.

7. In both books, traps drive the combatants towards one another (though the way it was handled in Battle Royale was "smarter" - instead of random disasters, people knew ahead of time which zones would become dangerous, and this allowed for deeper strategy than The Hunger Games could offer, in which "random events happen as the plot demands").
plot device
Forcing people to navigate an area filled with traps is also a very unique and has Hunger Games fans grasping at such disparate straws as Treasure Island and Lord of the Flies as possible inspirations for BR and BR2.

So it's not really that The Hunger Games rips off Battle Royale; it's that they both emulate many other stories that came before.

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Whattt? Lmaoo those books and movies lack so much substance. Hunger games isn't perfect but it's waayyyy better than the divergent series

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