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The BATTLE ROYALE Acsendency


is there any fear of potential copyright infringement/likeness from The Hunger Games? The overall theme of the game somewhat fits (minus the fairy tale characters part), along with pretty similar logos/fonts used. And the whole "_____ Games." Like with the Disney thing, I don't want you guys to get hosed on this project.

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in academia they are crazed hardcore about “ideas” since that’s their bread-and-butter.

in the “real world” ideas aren’t patentable, but it’s the execution of that idea.

I’m not an entertainment lawyer, but I’m sure they went over all the legalities of BR’s take on that idea before they spent a penny on actual footage.

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Removing the ending of BR sorta made the whole thing an insipid romance with no point like the Twilight series, but the American audience would have been up in arms if they left it in.

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No, in the real world, you get a copywrite for your intellectual property. Patents are for inventions.

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I read recently that the author of Hunger Games had not even heard of the movie, until someone brought it to her attention. Whether that is actually true or not is everyone's guess, except for Collins, of course.

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If you break it down to it's key elements and then some......... It is Battle Royale. People shouldn't be apologists for the body of work. it speaks for itself. The woman can craft and write all she wants, I won't knock that, but at the end of the day, it's still Battle Royale. Even Stephen King(who gave it a good review for the most part), called it out.

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The Fappening was staged jointly by the publicity managers of the celebs leaked.

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Alas, cultural thievery seems to run strong in the West at times (e.g Elgin Marbles, the Wicca movement). It’d be interesting to know if it’s as prevalent in others places around the world, or just a Western phenomenon. Cultural thievery does nothing to edify the people who stole it (’cause it proves that they can’t or don’t want to create genuine culture for themselves), and it does nothing to help the victims whom it was stolen from. Everyone loses out. It’s a shame.

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What kind of filmmakers make remakes of a movie when the original came out two years ago and has been selling DVDs very well internationally?

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It helps when the film was never released in the author's/filmmaker's country. It's the old tree falling where no one heard it/saw it question. If no one heard the tree falling...did it really exist in any meaningful way? Not really IMO. As far as Collins is concerned BR never existed.

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If that's the case, then why did Collins plagiarize both BATTLE ROYALE and BATTLE ROYALE 2, and then sign her own name to it as if it were her own original idea?

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She didn't is the obvious answer. Just because a teeny,tiny bunch of idiots like to think that, doesn't make it so.

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If that's the case, then why is the only difference between BR2 and Mockingjay the main character's gender and the spoken language? (English, as opposed to Japanese) ....

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And who in their right mind would think that anyone would want to plagiarize that pile of stinking manure BR 2, that wasn't even released in the US? Anyone who would think that would give a bad name to idiots.

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And who in their right mind would think that anyone would want to plagiarize that pile of stinking manure BR 2
Probably someone who wanted to profit from stealing the work of others.

Hint: It's Suzanne Collins, the "writer" of the Hunger Games: Mockingjay.

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Yes, but you have to have heard about that work to try and steal it. With BR2 the movie it's director ripped off it from his father and was never released in the US. Now it was released after Catching Fire was released. A vain attempt to cash in on the much better THG novels and films than that pile of stinking excrement. Makes you wonder at who was trying to rip off who. THG novels certainly are very well known, only the poor BR trolls think they can say BR was well known while the rest of the world laughs at them.

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Makes you wonder at who was trying to rip off who.



Hint:

Battle Royale II: Requiem release date: 2003

The Hunger Games: Mockingjay release date: 2010


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It always helps to have the real release dates for the country you live in on hand. Luckily the IMDB has all of them.

[quote]Release Dates
Japan 5 July 2003
Hong Kong 14 August 2003
South Korea 19 September 2003 (Megabox Japan Film Festival)
UK 1 November 2003 (London Film Festival) (premiere)
Netherlands 23 January 2004 (International Film Festival Rotterdam)
Belgium 20 March 2004 (Brussels International Festival of Fantasy Films)
Netherlands 25 March 2004
South Korea 2 April 2004
Germany 4 May 2004 (DVD premiere)
UK 23 August 2004 (DVD premiere)
Iceland 7 October 2004 (video premiere)
France 20 January 2005 (DVD premiere)
Spain 11 May 2005 (DVD premiere)
Finland 19 October 2005 (DVD premiere)
Sweden 19 October 2005 (DVD premiere)
Mexico 13 November 2006
Hungary 24 January 2007 (DVD premiere)
USA 20 March 2012 (DVD & Blu-ray premiere)[/quote

Here is the link to the page...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338763/releaseinfo?ref_=tt_ql_dt_2

It would seem in the 6/7 years since I first posted this for you to check out, you never bothered to read up on the garbage you post. Still living in that dream world, or maybe like Kelly Anne you simply prefer to spout 'Alternative Facts' that have nothing to do with the truth. There is a name for that, it's called lying. And try to live in the real world for a moment, 'Catching Fire' was published as a novel in 2009.

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There is a name for that, it's called lying.


How is it lying when the release dates for all nations is before The Hunger Games came out? And why do release dates of different countries matter when it was on youtube, netflix, hulu, etc since day one?

Are you suggesting that Collins is too copy stuff from the internet?


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Suzanne Collins doesn't live in those countries and her DVD player could not play those DVDs. And no sane person would inflict that pile of cr*p on themselves. That you seem to have watched the film, (highly doubtful-but you never know) says it all about your need to see a psychiatrist.

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Oh Summeiris, it was released in the UK on TV & DVD. It was shown many, many, many times on the big UK TV channels during the early 2000s. Multiple times, along with Battle Royale 2.

I proved this to you years ago with links to multiple TV listings, and advertisements on said UK TV channels. Which were conveniently ignored, and you spammed on with the same old responses that it was never available in the UK.

https://moviechat.org/tt1951265/The-Hunger-Games-Mockingjay-Part-1/58c88579d1ea5c1470757cf9/Why-does-every-one-think-this-is-a-copy-of-battle-royale?page=2

You're a shill. I remember you. You were supposedly obsessed with Hunger Games, a "fanatic", a "superfan", a constant defender of Suzanne Collins. Yet you never once talked about the movies themselves. Only in defence of the Hunger Games vs Battle Royale. Never discussing the films with other fans, only posting to defend Suzanne Collins whenever somebody brought up Battle Royale as if you came to life once certain keywords kicked in. As if you were "activated", only engaging to defend against Battle Royale criticism.

When the final Hunger Games movie was released, you never once talked about it, and you disappeared from IMDB that very week! Never to post again! For a super fan to not talk about the finale of a franchise with other fans, that seemed quite "odd".

You're a shill, and stopped commenting once the money stopped coming and the franchise ended.

Your account went DEAD the week of the final Hunger Games film. From 100 degrees Celsius to -100 the minute the franchise ended.

SUMMERIRIS is a shill and anything this account says should be ignored.

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You are a condescending, ignorant speck, ikissedaguru. No guru would kiss you, though he might let you kiss his enlightened ass.

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Truly original ideas are copied by weak-minded people of lesser talent, what else is new?...

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It is a very Japanese story, set very much in its time when resurgent Japanese nationalism was really taking hold. The debates between the various pairs of students (before they kill each other) are all in some way referencing this social transformation. Without some background knowledge of relations between Japan and the West, both before and after 1853, then it may be hard to see the point of Takami’s story (if you don’t know the significance of the year 1853, that’s a bad start.) Even if you do see the point, you may end up feeling that he hasn’t really made it.

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I remember Quentin Tarantino noting the Battle Royale connection during a London Q&A when advertising Django Unchained.

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And yet Battle Royale wasn't original.

Just look up multiple discovery. It's more common than we think. I mean Quentin Tarantino would automatically go there as so much of his work is an homage to something else.

Collins was influenced by the TV show survivor. I mean it would be a much better show if they actually had to survive. She also used the minotaur myth in greek mythology as inspiration where 7 young men and 7 young women were sacrificed to the minotaur for retribution. There are many other influences and some of those overlapped with Takami's. For instance The Running Man. I'm not saying that I know for sure that she didn't know about Battle Royale, but I also think that it totally within the realm of possibility that they just both had a similar idea and wrote similar stories.

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I know about multiple discovery. I wrote about it in a pop culture book that I'm working on. Basically, there have been so many examples of what's known as "twin films" i.e. two films which share the same concept e.g. "Die Hard in The White House."

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Seeing as how humans who have lived thousands of years ago constantly have their work copied even today, it certainly should not be an issue. Battle Royale was not invented by Hunger Games writers.

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