Just Another Insult


Originally, X-Men debuted as a mature comic-book. An intelligent take on meaningful fantasy that I may compare even to Watchmen.

It was then made into an ANIMATED series, whose visual style, story-arch and character design was very much faithful to the original works.
It's true, that it was marketed to teenagers, but it had that 90's style to it, which gave it credit as art.

Gradually, though, as the world changes, so do the people, and so does the demand.

In 2001, a new X-Men series began. This time, the X-Men are teenagers themselves, and they have to rival and tuffle as such.
However, the artistic faithfulness was mostly in tact, with the artwork, voice acting, etc.

The X-Men movies were both good and bad.
On the bad side, they weren't quite as faithful. They, too, had the smear of big-box-office comedy movies. The casting wasn't nearly as good, and the plots were a bit silly.
On the good side, it put Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart together, as friendful adverseries. Nothing could do the series more justice.

In 2008, a new show came about called Wolverine & The X-Men.
It had the reek of a saturday-morning cash-cow spin-off, but oddly, it was more faithful to the 90s cartoon than anything before it.
It was truly sad that the show was cancelled due to financial issues, even though it was very lucractive. Very odd, as well.

Around all these decent shows, and around the cancelling of Wolverine & The X-Men, a bunch of other shows came around which no one expected.
I'm talking about the pseudo-Saturday-morning kid's shows, which are not ANIMATED shows, but full-fledged CARTOONS and are targeted at small children.

This is where it gets insulting.

Because of the intellectual decline of society ever since the millenium, every piece of entertainment now proactively targets its potential audience on THEIR level.
That means that comedies are stupid because only stupid people watch them.
And, unfortunately, it means that kids shows are.. made for KIDS. That is to say, they are made to be radically infentile, lacking any bit of cerebral challenge.
They are created to keep whoever is watching from watching anything else.

"The Super Hero Squad Show" is one these monstrosities.
It's an X-Men: Babies show, or X-Men kids.. but with more super-heroes laid on top, such as the Hulk, a creative, interesting enigma in the films, reduced to a retarded puppet for the amusement of toddlers, and soon.. small children who grew up from those toddlers and were never challenged by anything, never expected or had the ability to want something better.

I've been reading the posts on this board, and it seems like everyone is more concerened with being "politically correct" (as expected) than denouncing a show that is bad for being bad.
It sickens me that 24-28 year-olds with small children, the people who were of age to watch the great animated shows of 90s, could treat their offspring to such utter garbage.

Make no mistake, this isn't about ME and my dislike for this show.
It's about you, about your kids and about SOCIETY as a whole and the sewer it has plumetted down to.

This show is both a mockery to cinema and entertainment as whole - what would you think of a "Lost: Kids" show, recreating the entire series.. for kids? - and the proof of our society downslide into intellectual feces.

I pray (Atheistically) that you all stop watching this nonsense and give your kids something meaningful to watch, like the original X-Men series.. or any 90s cartoon.

Im ashamed to say I would spred my legs so fast it would cause a sonic boom -Nweisha

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Couldn't agree more and that's what I will do if I ever have any kids.

Try not to take life too seriously, no one gets out alive.

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I read your post, and it's very well-written. However, I don't agree with you that MSHSS is trash.

I am a 40-year-old who grew up on 70s, 80s, and 90s super-hero cartoons, and I have a 4-year-old son. I watched the 90s X-Men in college.

To introduce him to the genre, I HAVE shown him "meaningful" shows: the 90s X-Men, 90s Fantastic Four, Batman, Spider-Man, 70s Super-Friends, 70s "The Incredible Hulk" tv show, "Superman: The Movie" et. al., but they all have scenes that are too intense for him.

He enjoys the SHS show very much, and it is AGE-APPROPRIATE for him (nothing too intense.) I enjoy the double entendres and the exaggerated humor of each individual character, and especially when there are guest-star voices. I don't feel that SHS is a sellout and ppl should bear in mind the target audience: PRESCHOOLERS. I honestly don't see much difference in the type of humor here than on SpongeBob (which I also enjoy.)

Look at it from a parent's perspective: it's another show to add to the rotation, one that's NOT annoying and that one can enjoy alongside their kids.... as opposed to the REAL trash out there... yes, Elmo, Barney, WonderPets, I'm talking to you.

Signed, Super Hero Mom - who is bummed they can't get the Wonder Woman franchise together.

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Couldn't agree more with everything you said. I admit that the mature stories is part of what drew me to comic books, but the moment I saw the animation style for this show I knew the target audience was younger kids so I didn't take it too serious. The characters reminded me of the Fisher Price Rescue Heroes toy line.

I'm also bummed that they can't get the Wonder Woman franchise together, but the recent announcement of a writer for the movie has given me new-found hope.

A boat that floats on water can also sink in it.

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In other words, to your point: you can't just show a little kid the 90s X-Men. "Here kid, watch this show!"

You have to start out somewhere, and SHS is a great introduction to the genre. At least it's not a super hero babies show.

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You need to stop looking too hard into this show.

I think it's fine as a show to stand on it's on for kids and has some fun humor in it. This shows seems to be aimed for the younger, younger kids though adults enjoy it, too, for some of the humor. I'm 24 and it cracks me up on the same level as Spongebob does.

I think it's written well and it's a good intro for the kids to get into the super hero genre. As they get older than can watch the more serious shows that have the bigger plot lines.

Stan Lee was for this, even voice acts in this. I'm a fan. It makes me lol. All that matters.

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"Uncultured oaf! Have at you!"

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I love this show. I think it's hilarious.

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I'm 37 and don't have kids but I remember being a kid very well. I'm wondering if those scenes in the older material really can be too intense for kids or if that's just what today's parents think/decide, then draw the line for the kids before they can get to see the classic "intense" material. I'd hate to think it's that today's kids are milksops. Let me tell you about me...

As a child of the 70's and 80's, I grew up when there was no watered-down action heroes that originated with that intensity. It was a better time for entertainment- quality-wise and non-extreme PC wise. I was introduced to Marvel Comics and the horror genre by my older brother. He had Power Records book and record sets from 1974 (Spider-Man: Mark of the Man-Wolf, Incredible Hulk at Bay, Dracula, Curse of the Werewolf, Monster of Frankenstein and Man-Thing). I ate these up at at first exposure. I began a lifetime of Marvel Comics and horror genre fandom. He also had GI Joe (with Joe as one man and no Cobra) book and record sets with "intense" scenes and I ate those up too.

Growing up in Michigan, I had good horror movies to look forward to every Saturday and Halloween week throughout the 80's. We had HBO back then too and I saw different, sometimes scarier movies on it. I also saw the slashers with Jason (and his mom), Freddy and Michael Meyers. Now I'd be lying if I said I never had nightmares from some horror movies as a young kid but I never looked away from the screen or ran out of the room and the nightmares never made me hate the movies or want to avoid them. I loved them!

Also, I first saw pro wrestling around 1st grade and I was hooked on that. Guys would sometimes bloody each other up and it didn't bother me. Barbed wire matches, chair shots, fire thrown in faces... nothing extreme they had bothered me. Women getting attacked by men or other women didn't bother me either. I ate it all up. Maybe I should also mentioned being a Three Stooges fan from a young age. Moe would poke the others' eyes or slap them, they'd all get hit on the head with various things. I wasn't bothered. I ate it all up.

But I can sort of see why parents have gotten more protective. Starting in the late '80's, adult/teen-geared TV and movies got more violent, had more sexual overtones, more swearing/dirty language, what have you. Even pro wrestling (WWE's Attitude Era). I think it caused parents children's entertainment police to look more exclusively at children's programming (instead of cleaning up the sex jokes on Married...With Children, preventing the Comedy Central network from going in a raunchy, more adult direction, etc.). The Looney Toons were even watered down on ABC Saturday mornings. Less out-and-out comic violence and comic explosion scenes were shown if they weren't cut out altogether. For crap's sake, the Classic Sesame Street DVDs came with a warning that the material may not be suited for today's kids. WTF? It has just gotten crazy!

Kids are tougher than you think if you give them a chance. I'm living proof. You're living proof. Where is the proof otherwise? They didn't change- parents did! Children's entertainment police groups did! Why not lay off cartoons and let kids prove they are tougher while concentrating our efforts on getting adult/teen-geared TV and movies cleaned up? The FCC lets the "S" word fly now, as well as some other things that shouldn't be said on TV. People have covered up or darkened sex on TV. Much of the comedy is sex jokes. Then there is political bias. Down with this crap.

Speaking of crap, yes, this show is crap. The day Marvel started doing pre-school level versions of their material was a dark one. When a source of entertainment like Marvel Comics is originally serious good vs evil action, there is no need to mess with the formula. Especially when you can start your kids out on the Three Stooges or some other viewing where the violence isn't taken seriously. A good next step up might be the 1960's live action Batman series (currently on the Hub network).

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Being an intentional comedy doesn't make it crap. You want crap? Look at "Avengers: United They Stand", now that show was crap.

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Make no mistake, this isn't about ME and my dislike for this show.


Wrong!
That's ALL this is. You've wasted your own time and everyone elses, whining about the fact that this show is a parody, and you missed that, and therefore think it's an insult to your precious 90s cartoon.

I pray (Atheistically) that you all stop watching this nonsense and give your kids something meaningful to watch, like the original X-Men series.. or any 90s cartoon.


Spoken like a child of the 90s who can't get his nostalgia glasses off.
Be careful, your shameful personal bias is showing.

NOW READ THIS AND SHUT UP:

I am here is to explain to you, that the mere fact that your initial statement illustrates your low view of The Super Hero Squad Show, indicates that you are not only narrow-minded and possibly even stupid, but certainly ignorant of the things you speak about.

Sure, the toys are aimed at children. That's generally who toys are for.
But the show itself, is aimed at children, young adults, and adults.

TSHSS is a PARODY.
It is designed for people of all ages.
It's the perfect example of a show, whereupon a young child can watch, a 20-something year old can watch, and a 40 year old (or older) can watch, all sitting together on the same couch, having a good time.
The show is a perfect example of absurdist humor and pitch-perfect parody.
It has the sillier, more juvenile jokes and flashy colors to entertain the youngest viewer, but also makes references to things like The Infinity Gauntlet that the 20-somethings would catch, and even references old-school Marvel comics with jokes and in-references that the 40 and older crowd will enjoy.

It is a self-aware parody of the Marvel characters, with influences taken from on the comedic "Mini Marvels" series of parody comic books, in that the heroes tend to find themselves in comedic situations, and have cartoonish bents to their usually serious personalities (such as The Incredible Hulk being jovial and good-natured but with "major anger issues"), and is an overall comedic take on the Avengers.

It's one of the few nearly perfect family shows. Something for each generation to enjoy.

It's an animation style called "super-deformed" or "Squat" characters.
It's not done solely to be aimed at children.
That notion is exclusive to Americans.
The style started decades ago, and is generally used for means of parody.
It's quite popular in countries like Japan, where it appeals to teens and adults, not just children.

You really should educate yourself before you speak.

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I was a comic book fan for over 30 years, started getting comics when I was 4 years old back in the early 70's. Back then most comics were geared towards kids my age,because they felt that is who read them. Super Friends which was very much a kids show debuted in 73 which followed comics/superheroes was kid stuff. Wasn't till later in the 70's that comics started getting more serious in tone, they realized that teens and older were reading them.

I have no issues with animated shows like SHS that appeal to younger kids. Only issue I had with it was I wish the made it more funny and added more in jokes for older comic fans. Like in season 2 where it pops in on Herbie talking with Wolverine and Herbie saying why he was put into the FF, Wolvering saying he thought it was so kids wouldn't light themselves on fire trying to imitate the Human Torch, that was a funny nod to 80's FF cartoon with herbie and they left out Johnny Storm.I thought that was pretty funny and I got it because I rememember the show and the controversy about that,little kids would have no clue.

As long as they mix in some more serious animated superhero shows with the kids shows that appeal to other age ranges, it all cool in my book.

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