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'The Colony' - err sorry mate!

posted 10 years ago by Witchgreeneyes13
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I hated this film as soon as they condescendingly portrayed Australia as "The Colony". Didn't watch it much further than this. If this stereotypical crap is peddled out as usual , when my descendants sailed out here in 1836 on their own free will as Scottish settlers and not convicts well I just don't want to know about it.... We are all not related to convicts you know ..... And the American accents in the United federation of Britain made me go ughhhhhh.....

That's it can't comment on the the film after the first 10 mins :)

[–] JazzPrime 10 years ago

It wasn't meant as a stereotype!
Why are people so offensive to minor details?!?!

Lets Rock N Roll!

[–] mradam-3 10 years ago

Yeah, it's a bit of an overreaction. I don't think "The Colony" had anything to do with convicts, or suggesting everybody's related to convicts.

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[–] Ctrl-Opt-Del 10 years ago

(I can say that, as being scottish, we are still colonised by the brittish!!!)

Look-up the term "colonised", you evidently don't have any idea what it means! Indeed, you obviously don't know what "British" means either, as you're conflating it with "English", while implying a disparity with "Scottish"...

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[–] scottishnpaddy 9 years ago

You must move in igorant circles then. Most do.

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[–] ttaskmaster 9 years ago

Apart from the English, Irish, Scots, Welsh, Cornish and just about everyone living in the UK, really... It's like thinking Canadians are American - See how loud they shout when you make that mistake!

[–] dlowther1968 9 years ago

Canadians are Americans. They just aren't united States citizens. They live in North American, therefore they are Americans.

[–] ttaskmaster 9 years ago

As an adjective, yes they do belong to the American continent, in the same way the Chinese, Indians, Iranians, Malaysians, et al are all Asians from Asia... though few refer to themselves thusly, typically stating their nationality.

But as the noun, the term American has entered common usage for, and since come to specifically pertain to, residents of the United States, probably because there isn't really any other suitable.

[–] ambrosia-apples 10 years ago

If you read the trivia section, it says that they were originally going to call it New Asia. They wanted it to feel more like a melting pot, so they changed the name to The Colony. It has nothing to do with them living in (former) Australia.

Funny, the Australians that I know who descend from convicts are quite proud of the fact. Sounds like you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder.

"Congratulations. I'm a hundred years old."

[–] glenmusher 10 years ago

The UK and Australia as we know them today have ceased to exist in the fictional future timeline of the movie (yes, it's just a movie!)

The UK is now the UFB- United British Federation as it's a republic by this point, Australia is now fully within the Asian sphere of influence (it was New Asia in the first draft of the script but later changed.)

Everything will be OK in the end, if it aint OK,it aint the end.

[–] sbowesuk 10 years ago

The moment I hated this movie was when I realised there would be no Mars, and therefore no ancient alien technology and birth of a new world to look forward to. The stakes in this remake were no where near as high as the original.

[–] fishpiechips 9 years ago

In the remake the whole idea of Mars being the saviour planet of the human race was ditched.

Instead lots of high octane, humans punching robots... err how does that work?

Only 2 inhabitable places on Earth with technology that built a train station through the middle of the planet?

Sci-Fi is interesting when you need to think about the ideas behind it!

Did I mention high octane humans punching robots action??!!

[–] fluffchop 10 years ago

Witchgreeneyes I have to agree. As an Australian I thought for a start, why would Britain still exist? Australia being the last standing makes perfect sense, but Britain would fall with Europe. Also why is Barrack Obama on some money? That's a US President and nothing to do with either the Pound or Aussie Dollar. And yes finally as you said, "The Colony" omg how bloody piss poor is that! Australia will be the forefront of the NWO that much is true. At the same time there will be one world currency, one world government and one world army. You can see what this movie reveals about the plan. Actually there is nothing to reveal. Australia is such a push over that you can make all sorts of rule changes and nobody stands up. Look at Pauline Hanson, everyone bagged her for having the balls to say what everyone thinks.

[–] galluslass 9 years ago

I think there was definitely some kind of UK vs Oz thing going on with the in jokes like calling it "The Colony" etc. I was also surprised that the Uk was the only other place left - really, little tiny UK!

[–] JoeX2525 10 years ago

Descendants? 1836?
How old are you?

[–] Ctrl-Opt-Del 10 years ago

Oh, calm down! The whole point is this is set some time in the 22nd century after the whole of human civilisation has fallen & is dragging itself back up again. Neither Australia, nor the UK exist any more. What was Australia has become a hodge-podge melting pot for all of the world's surviving refugees, while Britain has been taken-over by America after its own land was destroyed.

[–] !!!deleted!!! (2212087) 10 years ago

So what - your ancestors arrived in Australia in 1836 and were free settlers. That brings to minds several queries;

1. That is seven or eight generations ago, and allows plenty of time for a bit of corruption to have crept in. Ever heard of the expression "shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves - or clogs to clogs - in three generations"?

2. I doubt all your ancestors came from Scotland in 1836, as you would probably have at least 100 ancestors dating from that time, and it doesn't seem possible they all came at the same time or that they were all from Scotland (unless you're looking at a very small gene pool, in which case you probably have many fewer ancestors).

3. Follow on from 2. Do you know the family history of every branch of your family? If not, you have no idea what dirty little secrets are hidden away.

Additionally, are you sure you're Australian or have even been there for any length of time, No Australian cares if they have a convict in the family - quite the reverse, in fact.

[–] Witchgreeneyes13 10 years ago

Tezzab- I'm getting the vibe strongly you are from the eastern states of Australia? Let me know if I'm wrong! Perhaps a few convict friends in your ancestry closet!

I do get peeved when my English family and friends (you see I'm married to an ex-pat Englishman) tease me about our supposed convict history - when I actually have none.

Yes I do know my family history on both sides - the Scottish ancestry is strong on both sides but I have also English ancestors that arrived between 1836 and the 1870s. They were farmers, bakers and teachers mainly. The suburb I live in and have lived for the past 18 years is actually named after my great great grandfather as a first white settler in the area who was looking for lost stock in 1837. The bakers of my family on my mothers side are a well known baking family in South Australia who's name is still in business.

As far as I know all my ancestors are law-abiding, well respected and hard working folk.i don't know why I'm here defending my family heritage just for making an observation about the stereotypical view Hollywood ( and Britain) has of Australia but there you are ....

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[–] Ecthelion2005 9 years ago

Forget about history.

In the movie Australia is called the Colony because the massive inmigration from China that made Australia her Colony. You can see throught the movie how many asians were there, in the streets, in the Rekalt business and in workplaces. Even the signs are in chinese.Plenty of people with chinese tattoos too.

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[–] nhamer 9 years ago

Australia was founded as a penal colony for unwanted fugitives for civilized countries to use Australia as a dumping ground for unwanted and useless members of the population, that is a historical fact.

No it is not. You need to do more research on this.

[–] jrcanary-1 9 years ago

I didn't realize Australians had become so sensitive. I guess everyone wants to be a victim these days.

[–] raf-33 9 years ago

I was gonna say that, the Aussies I'm familiar with are the most rugged, grounded, salt-of-the-earth folks you can imagine. I suppose that was just a stereotype and they are really just big jessys like everyone else.

Ya Kirk-loving Spocksucker!