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Why this show sucks

posted 9 years ago by bsu_oak530
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At first I was really excited about this show. A show for metal fans on cable TV, how awesome. And at first it was pretty cool. You had cool guests come on like Dio, Halford, members of Metallica, Anthrax, Motorhead, etc. Then you started to realize that the guys on the show are actually not true metalheads. Sure, Eddie Trunk knows all the trivia surrounding hair metal/hard rock bands of the 70s and 80s, ask him a question about a band like Venom, or Cannibal Corpse, and you're going to Stump the Trunk. Of course you can tell the producers hand pick the people who ask him the questions before hand and make sure their questions are ones Eddie can answer. Why has no one asked him a question like "Which musician of Mayhem played on Dimmu Borgir's album In Sorte Diaboli?" Because Eddie doesn't like that kind of music and he'd get it wrong. The questions always pertain to bands like UFO, KISS, Guns N Roses, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, etc.

Their musical knowledge is limited. Why not acknowledge music in general on this show? One of their top 10s was Female Rockers. Rockers, not metal rockers. No mentions of Janis Joplin, Grace Slick, Debbie Harry, Siouxsie Sioux, etc. It's like everything outside of 80s hair metal sucks to these guys. I mean all you have to do is go to Trunk's site and check out his favorites list. His favorite Black Sabbath album is Heaven and Hell. He has no Ozzy era albums on his list. WTF? One Zeppelin album, and it's number 2? Of course KISS, UFO and GNR are on there multiple times, but no Slayer, no Motorhead, no Celtic Frost, no Darkthrone? Yeah, this guy really knows a lot about metal. The show should be That Hair Metal Show. Of course Trunk acts like a butt hurt Baby Huey when you challenge him on anything. Him and his massive unsupported ego are always on display on the show.

The show would be better if they got rid of Florentine. The guy is a stiff assed goon who pretty much has the same taste as Eddie. Don at least has some good taste once in a while. Maybe it would also be better if they got rid of the 40 year old man (50s?) who still only listens to the metal bands he liked back when he was a little fat boy in junior high. Or maybe it would just be better if they actually acknowledged music and metal in a wide scope instead of picking their favorite 10 bands to talk about for the past 14 seasons. Hair Metal was the most disgraceful metal genre. It was the closest thing metal ever had to pop boy bands assembled for cash grabs only. Why would you call a show metal and focus only on that? Ugggh.

[–] zwolf 9 years ago

I agree. This show has all the problems that Empty-V's old Headgiver's Ball had -- hosts who think Faster Pussycat was good. A lot of the stuff they cover isn't even metal. I think Thin Lizzy comes up every single week. Now, I like Thin Lizzy a lot, great band, but they're hard rock, not metal. I'm not opposed to having them be talked about, but... every week?

Then they mix guests so inappropriately that it's just insane, and gets embarrassing. They'll have a guy from Quiet Riot on (seemed like a nice guy, but lord what a lame band) on there with Bobby "Blitz" Ellsworth from Overkill. Are there any two bands with less in common? Then these stupes will embarrass them both by asking them things like, "Hey, have you ever had a show together?" The Quiet Riot guy covered nicely by saying "That'd be too much metal for one room!" and Blitz laughed, but you know they were both thinking, "WTF?" Why not just get Dee Snider on there and some guy from Immolation and ask "Hey, why don't you tour together?"

I worry that these putz hosts are doing the "metal" programming on VH1, too, because I'll start watching their "metal" vids and it'll be like, a Europe song, then a Mr. Big song, and then "God Gave Rock and Roll To You" by Kiss, and all this other junk, including a WHOOOOLLLE lot of ballads. If you're lucky you might get an Accept or Judas Priest video thrown in with all the Winger and junk, but you can be certain Morbid Angel ain't gonna show up no matter how long you sit there.

Half the time that Eddie Trunk picks a top five songs from a band, it'll be three ballads. I know the guy has extensive knowledge about his specific sub-grouping of "metal." If I want to know something about UFO, he'll be my go-to guy (and I love UFO, but, again, I consider them more hard-rock than metal, per se). But I'm not sure Eddie's tastes are really all that "metallic."

I won't completely disavow any show that'll give some airtime to Lemmy, but for the most part, it's an irritating show with really wack hosts. But, if they replaced 'em VH1 would probably just bring in Ricki Rachtmann... they have no clue what they're doing.

[–] bsu_oak530 9 years ago

Well said zwolf. It's awesome that hey have guys like Lemmy, Halford, and even King Diamond on, and I think the fans had a lot to do with that last one because you know Eddie could give a rats ass about Mercyful Fate and King Diamond.

The episode King Diamond was on also featured that Tremonti guy from Creed and Alter Bridge. Who is the moron who came up with that idea? A guy from a Christian hard rock band with a self proclaimed Satanist? Then of course Tremonti has to sit there and say how all he really wanted to do was be in a metal band. Then why didn't you do that from the start dude? You're basically saying you sold out with Creed. If I am going to be in a band, why the hell would I play music I didn't really connect with? Then, like you mentioned in your post, the 3 Stooges brought up the idea of a King Diamond/Alter Bridge concert. Yeah...pretty sure that show would spark a riot from the Mercyful Fate/King Diamond fans.

Trunk claims to be a music historian, and I use that term loosely, yet he'll have Lars Ulrich on his show, a dude who has said many times Metallica was an angry response to the hated glam metal of the 80s, and they're asking everyone what their favorite Bon Jovi album is, or talking about what happened to the band Stryper??

His tastes are as far from metallic as they get. It's just annoying because the show could be good, but Trunk has a limited view on everything. I loved when Billy Corgan was on the show because it was like wow, Trunk is acknowledging the existence of the Smashing Pumpkins?? Then Corgan told a story about him and Robert Smith from The Cure and I was like holy sh!t! The Cure gets talked about on Trunk's show? Wow. Now Eddie knows who they are and maybe he'll actually listen to them instead of the same 10 CDs he's been listening to since 7th grade.

I would like to see a show that talks about all metal. With guys who know about all types of metal, like Sam Dunn or something, but also with guys who like more than just metal. You seem like a tasteless arrogant goon when you act like metal is the be all end all of music. Nice to acknowledge the existence of bands like Pink Floyd, The Doors, Hendrix, The Smiths, etc.

[–] ZakkWyldeMyLittlePony 9 years ago

My main issue with this show is Eddie's constant whining about the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame. That right there, combined with him only liking heavy metal groups (or better yet bullcrappy hair metal bands) shows he has no taste in music or better yet, no appreciation for music outside the 70's hard rock/80's hair metal genre. I mean look at who's in The Hall; The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Beach Boys, Cream, The Who, Queen, Led Zeppelin, Eric Clapton, Tom Petty, Bob Dylan, Pink Floyd, Jimi Hendrix, Billy Joel, Elton John, David Bowie, BB King, Chuck Berry, Johnny Cash, Elvis Presley, Bruce Springsteen, U2, John Mellencamp, Lynard Skynard, ZZ Top, The Allman Brothers Band, The Doors, The Grateful Dead etc. It's a great list for Christ sake. Yes Eddie's right Madonna doesn't belong in there but overall, those band belong in there ahead of bands like Kiss and Deep Purple. I know you said the same thing in another thread, but I just got to say, I agree with you on that. Plus Eddie whining about ABBA being in the Hall annoys me since metal artists such as Lemmy, Zakk Wylde, and Corey Taylor have said they like ABBA. Plus, Eddie never mentioned bands like The Monkees, Steve Miller, or Meat Loaf not being in.

[–] bsu_oak530 9 years ago

Yeah, his whining annoys me too. I understand, the Hall of Fame is backwards. Green Day is in ahead of Yes, Motorhead, T Rex, King Crimson, The Cure, The Smiths, etc. But I will not say the entire thing is a joke. Look at who is in the Hall. Sorry, UFO probably won't ever make it, and for good reason. While they're a fine band, what did they do for music? Not much. They were sort of a generic 70s hard rock band, and you had a lot of those bands (Uriah Heep, Budgie, Thin Lizzy, Blue Oyster Cult, Rainbow, Ted Nugent, Dust, Wishbone Ash, etc etc etc). I really love the band Venom, but do I think they should make the Hall of Fame? No, nor do I ever expect them to. While they inspired black metal musicians, what did they do for the overall music landscape as a whole? Not much.

For him to whine about the Hall when so many legendary and iconic artists are in there, and deservedly so, shows his limited musical knowledge and appreciation. I have seen the title music historian appear next to his name on numerous shows he appears on. Nothing could be a bigger joke. It should say UFO (hard rock band) historian.

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[–] Danimal_77 9 years ago

You do realize that you just posted an almost identical post/reply in this very thread at the end of June? ;-)

[–] megafauna005 9 years ago

I can't believe this show is still on.

Jesus NEVER existed! He is Judeo Christian MYTH!

[–] ZakkWyldeMyLittlePony 9 years ago

Same. They are clearly running out of ideas in regards to who to bring on to the show. The TMS Top 5 and the Throw Down have both seen better days. Plus the questions they ask Eddie aren't really interesting anymore. Like you've said in another thread, this show has run it's course.

"Do a barrel roll"-Peppy Hare

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