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Jay Leno is funny. Conan O'Brien is NOT funny.


I'm really confused to how exactly the Conan fans classify his humor as "smart" and "not cheesy"...

A guy who's main jokes consist in "Yah, you guys are clapping even realizing the joke sucked!", "Why did you say 'buhhhh'? The show is free!", and of course... always making stupid moves with his body whenever a joke sucks, which is almost everytime.

And of course, who can ever forget his entire boring monologues? His monologues basicly follow the same repetitive structure.

It's like this: "Celebrity X said that he/she loves to go to the beach. Yah! Yah! And when they asked to X why he/she responded 'Because I love going to Tibet on the Sundays!... Mwaahahahahahahahaha!!!"

Basicly it's dumb jokes that consist on a celebrity X that did something and then responded about this issue... Lame, predictable, repetitive, boring...

Jay Leno monologue is brutal many times, excellent.

And everytime some joke sucks or the public doesn't like that much Jay Leno can deliver those punches pretty well and even makes fun of that same joke, he can put the audience laughing out loud.

But Conan O'Brien just starts jumping around and making dumb expressions like a 7 years old kid, humor that only kids from the kindergarten would like...

Last week, I've seen an episode of the Tonight Show, and when someone boed a Conan's joke (that person was just joking, obvously) Conan couldn't simply let it go! He was obviously frustated by this and started making fun of that same person for like long minutes! He was furious that someone tried to "steel the show" or "didn't like his joke" or "was just joking around".

This is "intelligent humor"? Conan? What??? Since when? Jay Leno may be cheesy many times, but at least it's alot more intelligent than Conan's, Conan's jokes are aimed to little kids that love strange behaviours, strange facial expressions, strange moves...

That's what adults do to little kids to make them laugh. Not adults to adults.

And Conan's shows are even more "fake" than Leno's.

For example, the Headlines sketche. On Jay Lenos show the articles he shows to us are totally real, he didn't change them at all and he's pretty funny doing that.

But with Conan the articles are fake and filled with stupid and childish remarks that are not funny, and Conan is not as funny as Jay presenting them, not even close.

Seriously, and you Conan fans are always asking why Jay Leno has a much bigger audience than Conan O'Brien?

Maybe it's for SOME REASON, right?

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AdolfSutler you hit the nail on the head.

Leno is 1000000000000000000000000 times funnier than CoNON and it's SO obvious just by listening to them and that's WHY Conan failed and why Leno is going back where he belongs and it's why Leno has MILLIONS more viewers than soon to be unemployed CoNON!!

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Not once have I ever seen the audience "laugh out loud" during Leno's monologue...not once, it's always a chuckle and clap...or usually nervous chuckle.

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Emininity either you have never seen Leno or you are as blind as a bat!!

Leno's audience LAUGHS OUT LOUD constantly you delusional blind moron!!

And he's got the MOST fans and viewers and that's why he's staying and that's why Conan is OUTTA HERE!!

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For example, anyone who actually laughs at the telegraphed, staler-than-a-40-year-old-Oreo jokes of Jay Leno is likely themselves rather milquetoast and boring. There’s nothing wrong with preferring tasteless gruel because it’s non-threatening and there’s never the chance of it going over your head and making you feel as stupid as you most likely are But one should at least admit it instead of pretending the Talking Chin is at all funny in any way.

Couldn't agree with you more on this. Jay Leno is so unfunny it's almost infuriating.

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You morons who keep saying Leno is for old people obviusly have never seen his audience which is mostly people under 50 i.e. the coveted young 18-49 demographic advertisers want!!

Conan is a goofy awkward doofus while Leno sets up and delivers and joke better than anyone and also knows when to change tone properly and accentuate the proper part of the joke!

That's why CoNON is GONE and Leno is back to being the KING of late night!

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Oh man. The list of people who can set up and deliver a joke better than Jay Leno is basically endless. Even Russel Peters is funnier. No wait, even Jimmy Kimmel is funnier than Jay Leno and, for me, that's saying something. If Leno is so awesome, why did his new show flop so bad, huh?

Conan is the best!

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"You morons who keep saying Leno is for old people obviusly have never seen his audience which is mostly people under 50 i.e. the coveted young 18-49 demographic advertisers want!! "

Wrong. The average age of Leno's viewers was in the mid-50s. Conan's viewers on average was 47.

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A guy who's main jokes consist in "Yah, you guys are clapping even realizing the joke sucked!", "Why did you say 'buhhhh'? The show is free!", and of course... always making stupid moves with his body whenever a joke sucks, which is almost everytime.

It's called self-deprecating humor. This is the essense of Conan, and completely alien to Jay. Jay will never risk making a fool of himself like that. See how uncomfortable Jay was with Jimmy Kimmel. Jay's humor is all about ridiculing others. Jaywalking being the most obvious. Even the misprinted headlines are done completely differently by Jay and Conan. Jay gets REAL headlines and ridicules the people in those headlines. Conan makes up the captions on advertising, and almost always ends with one that ridicules himself.

They're different senses of humor.

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Humor is subjective. But it is precisely because it is subjective that it can tell us so much about a person. For example, anyone who actually laughs at the telegraphed, staler-than-a-40-year-old-Oreo jokes of Jay Leno is likely themselves rather milquetoast and boring. There’s nothing wrong with preferring tasteless gruel because it’s non-threatening and there’s never the chance of it going over your head and making you feel as stupid as you most likely are But one should at least admit it instead of pretending the Talking Chin is at all funny in any way.


Yeah, ahd Con O'Brien's humor is so intelligent... Like dancing and making dumb facial expressions.

Little kids love when their parents do that...

Not once have I ever seen the audience "laugh out loud" during Leno's monologue...not once, it's always a chuckle and clap...or usually nervous chuckle.


On Jay Leno there are alot of moments where the audiences laugh out loud, on Conan that's very but VERY rare... only some nervous clappings, etc.

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Conan O'Brien's humor is a clever mix of highbrow and lowbrow humor. Wild and crazy absurdist humor clearly influenced by Monty Python and David Letterman. Add to that his penchant for self-deprecation and clever improv, you got comic gold.

And as that one guys said: Humor is subjective. Different types of humor appeals to different people. Jay's type of humor is bland which means he appeals to conservative, old, boring or stupid people. Conan's humor is often abrasive, absurd, subversive, offensive and cutting which appeals to people who are less conservative, old, boring and stupid.

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Completely agree with you angelx, very very well said! Personally, I see Jay as the past and Conan as the future. We'll see how it falls out when Conan find his new home.

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They are different and they both have merit. Both monologues often suffer from the setup getting a better response than the punchline. I prefer Conan's hitting the punchline and waiting for the response. Jay's way of telling a joke is more like a song that trails off instead of ending. He'll get to a punchline but he'll keep going and talking and there's a smattering of applause throughout because often he doesn't end his jokes definitively.

Another thing I don't understand about Jay is that he says he likes to keep his humor a little more PG, no swearing, no blue material, etc. because he wants to produce a show that even his Mom will enjoy. But he keeps harping on topics like Hugh Grant's sexual dalliance, and OJ Simpson jokes. I'm not saying offensive jokes aren't funny but to me they are offensive in concept and Jay still thinks that they're squeaky clean because he doesn't swear or whatever. At least when Conan tells a joke about a celebrity caught in a sex scandal or something he's usually like "I can't believe the audience laughed at that" and who can forget the "I'm a-gonna go to Hell when I die" song he would use to acknowlege a particularly crass joke. I guess what I'm saying is that they both cover the same kind of material but Conan knows his audience is teens and college kids while Jay tries to sell the same raunchy material to senior citizens and pretends that he's running a class act when he's telling the same dick & fart jokes, at least be honest about it.

Of course Conan acts childish that's part of his character, the inappropriateness of the way he acts when he should be a respectable adult. Jay doesn't have much of a character, he just tells jokes. So Conan can generate a laugh based on a joke or bit, or just by the way he acts. Jay is pretty much reliant on the strength of the joke itself. As for the audience reactions both guys get cheered. Conan's audience erupts into thunderous applause all the time. I don't watch enough Jay to know if he gets that same reaction, I'm guessing he does from time to time. But with Jay it would have to come from a joke that the audience likes, whereas with Conan he usually gets cheered more for acting goofy than on the strength of his jokes.

Personally I don't think any of their jokes are particularly funny most of the time. Like I said, the setup is usually funnier than the punchline. So Jay usually goes for the most obvious punchline and Conan usually goes for the dumbest, the "I can't believe we couldn't come up with a better joke" approach and then gets the audience to laugh at the stupidity of it.

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Those who don't find Jay funny can't even understand English properly or have some cognitive impairment.

I'll admit Conan has been funny too the past week and they ALL tell funny jokes once in while, Letterman, Kimmel, Ferguson, Conan, etc.

But NO ONE has been as consistently funny as Leno and THAT'S WHY he has been number 1 in the ratings for 15 years and running!!

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You honestly believe someone is the best because he/she is #1??? I truly feel sorry for you.

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Leno's monologues can be simplified even more:

make a joke about French people (or Europeans)
make a joke about Asians

I can honestly say that I have never laughed at anything Leno has ever said.


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You're a LIAR sweiland!!

If you can understand English you'll laugh at at least a few of Leno's jokes.

On the other hand Conan's Tonight show is HORRIBLE. I saw it last night and see the thread I made about it.

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I agree. It could have been better, but it seemed to be watered down from his old show. I guess that's because people used to the dry humour of Leno could not handle the humour of O'Brien.


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