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Anyone who skips this movie because of Fonda's politics in the 70's...


...is mentally deficient. The movie is quite good, and she's quite good in it.

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anyone who brings up something so lame and dated is equally deficient of mental funds...

you need to get over others not getting over it.

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I would say as mentally deficient as someone who would pose for pictures with an AA gun used to shoot down their countrymen.

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Mentally deficient? Here's her explanation about the picture (she never even planned to take it in the first place, some reporters did, and she regretted it and has apologized for numerous times,anyway)

http://www.janefonda.com/the-truth-about-my-trip-to-hanoi/

Also it dosen't have one damn thing to do with the movie,anyway, so you're mentally deficient for even bringing it the hell up.

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It's on the Interwebz so it MUST be true! You'd be mentally deficient to believe it.

She admits that it was HER lapse in judgement, a time of mental deficiency if you will, for those pictures to be taken.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0182769/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

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Her explanation is just that...and revisionist history after she began getting heat for it.

Funny on her own website, you won't find this:

Fonda called returning POWs "hypocrites and liars," adding, "These were not men who had been tortured. These were not men who had been starved. These were not men who had been brainwashed. ... Pilots were saying it was the policy of the Vietnamese and that it was systematic. I believe that's a lie."

In a 1995 interview with The Wall Street Journal, Bui Tin, a communist contemporary of Giap and Ho Chi Minh, who was serving as an NVA colonel assigned to the general staff at the time Saigon fell, had this to say about the Leftmedia and Soviet puppets like "Hanoi" Jane Fonda and John Kerry: "[They were] essential to our strategy. Support of the war from our rear was completely secure while the American rear was vulnerable. Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement. Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda, and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and ministers gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses."

So yes, you read that right...useful idiot like Hanoi Jane and Swiftboat Kerry, actually prolonged the war.



Whose idea was it for the word "Lisp" to have an "S" in it?

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I couldn't give a flying frog's fat butt about Fonda's political history. None of that has anything to do with the fact that this film stinks and she stinks in it.

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I'd say anyone who overlooks Jane Fonda's murderous political sympathies is morally deficient.

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So are people that overlook her apology and her explanation.

Why let the truth get in the way of your blind hatred?

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Like talking to the wind, people like that feel better when they have someone they can demonize, you will never change the way they think.

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So you'd have no problem watching a film with Bill Oreily staring? (assuming the reviews of his acting were good)

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If it was 40 years from now and he'd rethunk his *beep* and apologized for it. Yeah, I'd watch it.

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I am so sick of people still talking about Jane Fonda as Hanoi Jane. Everything that happened has happened and she has apologized over and over again.

Regardless of any political action she made in the 70's, she is a wonderful actress and steals almost any scene she is in.

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Fonda's politics in the 70's
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Whats this about?

Raylan Givens: I'm going to need an ambulance, and a coroner.

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I don't like any movies that have celebrities that have been outspoken or have broken the third wall that is illusion with their political stances. This movie has multiple people who have done this and I could care less about the movie because all I can see when I watch it is their political beliefs.

Just because they have millions of dollars and cameras pointed at them doesn't mean they have a special rite above myself to impose their beliefs on the world. She pissed off a bunch of people and her career suffered (rightfully so) for it.

Take a look at the careers of Danny Glover, Sean Penn, George Clooney and get ready to see the downfall of Leonardo DiCaprio as well. Just my personal opinion, but the proof is in the pudding. Fortunately, for DiCaprio... he's still young and still has the ability to make people forget that he once opened his rich opinionated mouth.

Entertain. Don't preach. That's what you're paid for. Every single issue in the world has a middle ground. Every single one. When you pick a side in the public eye... you piss off a good portion of people who disagree and that's not good in the entertainment business.

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Isn't it amazing how many celebs loved Obama before he was prez and no longer want anything to do with him? They are all hypocrites.

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How wise you are. Why not try a little research before you open your "opinionated mouth." Her track record after the incident includes the biggest hits of her career. And your opinion, much as you wish it was true, isn't backed up by facts in any of the other examples you name, either.

You're correct: celebrities don't have the special "rite" [sic] to "impose their beliefs on the world," and they're not. They're just stating opinions, just as you would if you were doing it.

Incidentally, it's breaking the fourth wall, genius.

You liked Rashomon.
That's not how I remember it.

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Firstly, you mean the "fourth wall", and even that it's irrelevant. The fourth wall is the imaginary wall that is removed in a naturalistic piece of theatre, the missing wall through which the audience watches, and an actor directly addressing the audience from the stage is known as "breaking the fourth wall". Some people refer to actors directly addressing the camera as "breaking the fourth wall", but that's straining the boundaries of that particular expression, at best.

An actor doing whatever they choose when they're not at work has absolutely nothing to do with breaking any wall, third, fourth or even fifth. If you're unable to separate an actor (a human being with a right to political opinions, who can do as they choose and say what they want thanks to your constitution) and the character they play, it's you that has the problem.

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