THE BOOK was way better


I didn't like the movie because it really wasn't that much like Jason.

The real Jason (at least how he portrayed himself in his book) was much more likable and intelligent.

In the book Moss didn't really allow Gacy to do so many things that were dangerous to him. He also didn't beat up his brother's bully - he planned out a reasonable way for his brother to fight him and save face and end the bullying. And in the book there was absolutely nothing about Moss being so utterly retarded as to follow the gay prostitute into the basement, take a drugged drink - and then later to brutalize a female hooker. Also, in the book he didn't pose seductively in pictures for Gacy (I don't think) but instead just said things on the phone and letters that made Gacy's imagination imagine what he wanted.

IMHO Moss was a lot smarter and more decent than the Moss from the movie - I feel like they ruined a true person with the portrayal of Moss in Dear Mr. Gacy - I'm glad Moss didn't live to see it - but I wished he'd lived.

"The world is more interesting with [him] in it"



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There is no way, he was intelligent, if he killed himself, such a weak tard. He was useless for the world.

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Ha! No you dork - he was not a weak tard!

When you're young you think you're invincible - later you start to realize things that make living harder - a lot of strong people are depressed and even fight suicidal thoughts, especially as they get older.

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That Ad Hominem is irrelevant. He was just a pretentious student, he should leave that to pretentious students who also happen to be smart as *beep*. There are, he got what he deserved, for daring to try to enter Gacy's mind when he was simply not a smart human being in the first place.

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Nice, let's offend over and over again, this way you will most def win an argument, if i was a troll like you.

Now i won't explain what it's obvious cos it's offensive for intelligence, therefore i will only raise a question and let you figure it out by yourself"

Why was he obsessed with Satanic cults?

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Look, all i am saying is that you should learn to handle yourself and if you are not a direct friend or at least acquaintance of Jason Moss then you are just really stressed and should go to a SPA or a psychologist (there is nothing wrong with going to a psychologist).

It is offensive for intelligence that you were not able to do a tiny bit of research and say something like "he may be interested in satanic cults even before he contacted Gacy"
No, he was not, and you would lose a case very easily and Jason Moss as an attorney would be yawning at you, I will answer the question for you.

Moss studied devil worship as preparation for beginning correspondence with the imprisoned Ramirez, a Satanist. He got too deep into it, he got in contact with too many killers, his mind couldn't handle it and BAM BAM he was dead.

He didn't know the limit of his intelligence.

If you keep calling me stupid you won't win the argument you will just keep on being an ignorant on the things that you try to defend, as long as you are not a lawyer or plan to be a lawyer that is alright, humans like you are very common nowadays.

I don't make incoherent sentences, i just skip so many steps to reach conclusions, normal people need to go through all those steps so that is why i am explaining this to you but it is very upsetting and annoying.

You give me opinions and i give you facts.

"you equate suicide with one's level of intelligence" A false statement and a simple assumption, I love Virginia Woolf and Ernest Hemingway. This guy was just ok, you are putting him on a pedestal when all he did was trying to manipulate serial killers who ended up manipulating him and driving him to suicide. Very smart move?

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he should leave that to pretentious students who also happen to be smart as *beep*.

And most of what i said in my last post over explain the reason why i called him stupid for killing himself, isn't the fact he killed himself, but the reason why he ended up killing himself, it wasn't a personal choice, it was a "choice" that was done through manipulation from serial killers, like the quote says

"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."

Virginia Woolf killed herself for respectable poetic reasons a martyr from the retards of her time. Unlike this guy a victim of evil people smarter than him, the lesson is don't try to outsmart Friederich Nietzche if you are George W. Bush.

Other than that i am happy that you couldn't reply to all the other paragraphs because you are aware you are wrong, not stupid, just wrong.

I might die a nobody, I might be someone important already, I might not, as far as you know, you don't know.

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Hey - what a great quote Megaruda - I didn't even notice this - one of my favorites:

"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."


But I must say, man, every time you use the word "retarded" it reminds me of the quote, "Arguing on the Internet is like the Special Olympics, even if you win, you're still retarded"

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I didn't even notice you are a whore. <<<auto win

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nice.

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Megaruda,

I'm not exactly how PaxSurpana and you got off on the wrong foot but both of you are making some good points, I wish it wouldn't degenerate.

What you've said here is very true - especially this:

Moss studied devil worship as preparation for beginning correspondence with the imprisoned Ramirez, a Satanist. He got too deep into it, he got in contact with too many killers, his mind couldn't handle it and BAM BAM he was dead.

He didn't know the limit of his intelligence.


The reason I sympathized with Moss so much is that I did much of what he did at his age. I read a lot of true crime and later got to know some true psychopaths just a little too well. I thought I was strong enough to handle it but I wasn't, and my depression has almost destroyed my me, my wife and my kids.

Dance with the devil...

And yes, I see what you mean - I am the same way - people always say I'm illogical but I think I have made several logical steps that are difficult to describe without writing a book (which I used to do on ImDB until I realized no one wants to read it).

Our culture is not primed to digest complicated ideas and arguments. Neil Postman describes this well in Amusing Ourselves to Death.

However, I, as a product of this culture, am also very intellectually lazy and I should really make short logical connections between my ideas.

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Suicide is a serious issue. There was more than just Gacys attack that made him commit


This is who I am. This is what I know. Im never gonna stop. Fv!k what they think! -Kuza

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Watching it I was thinking "How is it physicly possible for anyone to make these mistakes?"

When the end credits rolled I knew I wanted to read the book, because that would be closer to the truth.

Not a bad movie, great in fact and it really makes you think about human nature, what an enigma it is. But films based on real life always have to change something to make it more suitable for television.

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You should pick up a cheap used copy of the book. It wasn't great - was arrogant, staged, and a little childish like Moss but it was interesting.

I mean no one can conclusively say why Moss committed suicide. Moss didn't live in his life in a science lab where we had every variable regulated and compared with a control group of Moss clones who were not exposed to serial killers.

But it's not a leap to say that he was probably depressed to begin with, maybe also had some sociopathic tendencies himself, and his involvement with these killers just made his depression worse.

Human nature is complicated - but I think there are some principles to interpret behavior that make things clearer.

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