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What is with fake asians? Why not just cast an asian?


So *beep* stupid.

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Each characters timeline could only be played by 1 actor, as they are reincarnated throughout history. They wanted the viewer to know who everyone was, even though they came back in a different place and different time. If you can't understand this simple concept, you're an idiot.



Life is what happens to you while your busy making other plans....

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Each characters timeline could only be played by 1 actor, as they are reincarnated throughout history. They wanted the viewer to know who everyone was, even though they came back in a different place and different time. If you can't understand this simple concept, you're an idiot.



Life is what happens to you while your busy making other plans....


WELL SAID

Also no one ever told that Neo Seoul is Actually Asia, its just Capital of Nea Se Copros wich is state in Future just mind of Wachovskies,so nothing stupid was happening there its just you cant follow the plot

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Have you even read the book?

Nowhere in the book does it say that the characters are reincarnations - but it does hint that their souls are shared in some way. That's two different concepts for you.

The film didn't need to treat its viewers as idiots. A good actor could portray having come from the "same soul" as another character from a different timeline. The novel doesn't say they look the same (and actually they don't).

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Adapting pages of a book into film is not as carbon-copy as you think it is. Ask Peter Jackson, he'll tell you.



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Well it's pretty clear that this was one thing that the Wachowskis decided had to be perfectly clear from the get-go, especially for people who probably hadn't read the book. I watched the film before reading the book and I probably would not have known that they are supposed to be related without them being the same actors on the first viewing, or some other visual cue. You can't expect everyone to catch everything the first time viewing a film, much less one as unique as this.

If you had read the book before watching the film, of course you would think that you are being "treated as an idiot" as you say.

Assuming one hadn't read the book, how would we have known that (Hugo Weaving's characters) the slave owner, Smoke, Nurse Noakes, the Boardman in Neo Seoul, and Old Georgie were the same soul if we had different actors portraying them? The only way would be to have them say something like a "catch phrase", but people would say it's too campy or obvious as well.

Or maybe, since Tom Hanks' soul goes through lots of changes, he would have the same catch phrase, but it evolves throughout time?

Or if each soul had a unique birthmark?

Just thinking out loud at this point, but it's easy to make these suggestions after the fact. The Wachowskis made a choice for it to be very visually obvious, so the audience could focus on what they believe is the true importance/intent of the story.

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The central topic of the movie is that we are all connected to one another. That is why the actors play different characters in different time periods. Showing we are all part of everyone's life post present and future. That's why the birth mark that several characters have. If you where able to watch this movie once and put it aside and move on you missed allot, because I still find new things even after a dozen viewings. And remember it's entertainment enjoy it.

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So, is it stupid when the Asian girl plays a white woman, too? The entire film (more or less) is about transcending boundaries between people, be they ones of race, sex, or ultimately human vs AI. Having each actor play different races or genders is meant to show how arbitrary these distinctions are (which must be something dear to the hearts of the directors, who have now both transitioned from male to female).

-There is no such word as "alot."

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THANK YOU - that is exactly the point. I just finished my essay on the movie (in german only, sorry), and this is one of the most important messages I took from the movie. It is exactly what Sixsmith says: All boundaries are conventions.

And yes, given their personal history especially the Wachowskis are both not ashamed but probably even entitled or called to promote the thought/hope (or if you want to call it "liberal agenda") that one day we as a people can see beyond these boundaries and see each other as human beings, not as stereotypes and labels.

Especially in this light I find the whitewashing accusations really ridiculous.

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