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could have used a final polish or two


With apologies to those of you who preferred this version to the 1996 version, I couldn't disagree more. I found this version sloppy on so many levels. Frumpy and badly designed dresses, dearth of petticoats, unpolished script, bad editing (I'm pretty sure the dialogue was supposed to match the lip movements), jarring modern references (e.g. Harriet's streaked hair; and did I detect a Valley girl intonation in one of Emma's scenes?), poor makeup job (Harriet was roughed up by gypsies, she didn't have her face tatooed), and behavior completely inappropriate for the period (somehow I never pictured Emma whooping it up like a landless Irish lass). Romola, who did such a fine job in "Daniel Deronda" overacted badly here, portraying Emma as a semi-histrionic shrew. The rest of the performances were fine, though I didn't find Mr. Knightly particularly likeable (I know, I know, some of you found him sexy; I wish I had). The music was pleasant but forgettable.

Did I hate it? No. It was still better than most programming in the States. But it won't be a part of my permanent collection.

So, am I impossible to please? Seemingly not. I loved Emma 1996 (with Gwyneth Paltrow). I loved Sense and Sensibility 1995 and 2008, Pride and Prejudice 1995 and 2005 (the latter ruling me out as a stickler for period accuracy), and Persuasion (1995). What I loved about them was their attention to detail and a polish that I think this version of Emma sorely lacks.

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as you said: i couldn't disagree more

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Well most people who like this don't think much of Paltrow's bloodless, feeble, impossibly coiffured, modern, toned-down, Surrey romcom queen. More Downton Abbey than Donwell Abbey.

And whatever else you can call the script "too adventurous", "too extrapolated", "too modern" there are no parts of it which are even slightly unpolished.

As for acting, Romola's visit to Miss Bates after Box Hill ranks with the finest acting you'll find in any period drama. I've yet to see anything from Paltrow or Beckinsale in the same class. The fatherly scenes between Romola and Michael Gambon are not equalled in any other version of Emma and the scene with Emma trying to get out of one of the traps she has made for herself, when waiting for the invitation from the Coles is utterly pitch perfect and encapsulates the essence of Austen's humour.

You'll find other people have taken a second look at E09 and modified their views, if you have a look around.

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Hear hear, alfa.


- What kind of sycophant are you?
- What kind of sycophant would you like me to be?

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badly designed dresses


Seriously? Most of the clothing from this drama seems to have come from earlier productions, which according to the trivia page here appears to be a common practice in this industry. As for the costumes Paltrow wears in the Miramax version, they're perhaps the least period-correct of all the costumes found in JA adaptations that came out in the 1990s. (Paltrow's dresses were too Audrey Hepburn/Breakfast at Tiffany's.)

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Final Polish or two eh!

I preferred the raw and uncut Emma, lol. Lots of heart and humor. Just a vibrant production all around.

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"But it won't be a part of my permanent collection. "

I'm always a bit perplexed when folks, who don't like a particular version, say, almost with pride, that they won't watch it again...can't stand it...won't make it part of their collection. I rather feel sorry for you. I have all four versions of Emma and enjoy EACH one in it's own right. If this one comes across as unpolished...well, I guess I enjoy that because I really like the "life" that comes through in this version. Why shouldn't a head strong, conceited, rich, "full of herself" girl like Emma not come off as a bit over the top? I don't mind Paltrow's and Godwin's more staid presentation, or Beckinsdale's distainful manners, they give variation to the story. But Garia's more exuberant Emma is a nice variation on the theme.

As to attention to detail, I rather enjoyed the backdrop this version built for each of the main characters. Mr W, Ms B, and Mrs B become more like real people rather than silly carictures.

I like TLM better than Strong as Mr K. And, being a guy, sex has naught to do with it.

This version presents a Mr K and Emma that really convinces me they could have liked each other. Strong/Beckinsdale...not so much. Strong's dealings with Emma are...strong, gruff, domineering, while TLM's Mr K comes across as critical, but definitely caring. In the Strong version, it's almost like a surprise ending; them getting together. That's not bad in it's own right, but it's a different story than a romantic buildup that is evident to the audience.

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"I'm always a bit perplexed when folks, who don't like a particular version, say, almost with pride, that they won't watch it again...can't stand it...won't make it part of their collection. I rather feel sorry for you."



Yeeesh, simmer down. I'm not waving a flag here. It was just a statement of comparison. I didn't hate the movie, I'm not even sorry I saw it, I just don't like it enough to buy a copy. And your pity is unnecessary; I don't suffer from lack of quality entertainment.

And if it'll make you feel better, I don't like the Mark Strong version that much either, for the same reasons as you. I prefer Jeremy Norton as Mr. Nightly. It's mostly about his performance, but since I'm a woman, sex may have a tiny bit to do with it.

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Jeremy Northam was definetely cute as Mr. K but I found him a bit tame. He is supposed to critize Emma heavily and I found that in the 1996 version he was despite the criticism rather sweet to her.

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