Did she just ....


Insert a metal rod in his? *shudders*


I came across this movie on the super channel a few days ago. My mother was watching it in the living room upstairs with my 7 yr old sister & 9 yr old brother. I caught some sequences where the main protagonist's conversing amongst his fiends & thought it was "meh".


Went down stairs to watch Futurama instead and after it finished I decided I'll give this movie a shot seeing that there's now nothing else really on. Wow, how shocked I was the moment I flipped the channel to see the images being depicted on my screen. Nothing like I've seen before... well, ...on network television anyways.


I dunno, I mean. I'm sure people have seen much worse. But.. lol, this was on the super channel. And you got somebody's...*shakes head* being penetrated by a metal rod until blood sprouts profusely from it like a fricking geyser? really?


But yeah, I am indeed a gore-man though. Love all the Saw films, just not something you see everyday in a semi-mainstream movie being broad-casted publicly.


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It's a Canadian pay channel. Kinda like Starz in the states.

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i thought it was a glass narrow tube because after she got it all the way in she grabbed his penis, squeezed and made it break inside him

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Uh, I'm sorry, all I can read in your post is that your mom was watching this with your 7 year old sister and your 9 year old brother?!!!!? I don't even know....wtf? *shakes head*

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Yeah what in the world is your mother letting children of that age watching such material. Those kids should be taken off her. Seriously. That is just damn irresponsible on her behalf. No wonder we have so many f$#ked up kids these days. Your mother is a disgrace. People like her dont deserve to have kids.

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"Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos more creative." -Billy Loomis

Meaning if you saw a movie like this and went out and copied it, you were psychotic to start with.



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So... yeah I just saw that scene.. I was looking up stuff while watching the movie, so it didn't have my full attention... until I hear sexual gasping.. I'm like "Oh.. ok..lol horror movie booty..sure why not". AND THEN The glass rod trick.. omg! That has to be better than the castration scene in Hostel Part Duex! Well.. almost.. I actually wasn't sure what I was seeing and I rewound it twice.. honestly.. wow.. The second you hear her shove that thing in, and you can how she's forcing.. Yeah.. wow.. gore at its best.

I'm actually quite surprised it seems t be on network tele too...

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Yeah, I don't know why I said metal rod.. I guess the scene rendered my ability to think rationally, lol.


I agree though.. gore at it's finest! I'm always looking for movies to push the boundaries of utter absurdity in a manner befitting my appetite for what they call "torture porn" & this definitely peaked my interest... too bad the movie itself was a complete bomb.

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Give me a break. This is probably coming from somebody who doesn't have children of their own well-enough to even speak on a situation of this magnitude. I've watched plenty of scary movies as a child and believe me when I say not one of them has made me want to go out and kill somebody. Desensitized? sure. Traumatized? far from it. I've had a happy childhood and I'm glad I wasn't brought up in some insufferable situation with overbearing parents who ran their household like a P.O.W camp. The only disgrace here's the naivety projected in your remark.

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Your mum was watching this nonsencial gore-fest with your 7 year old sister and 9 year old brother? That's just *beep*ed up man, seriously. And we wonder why there are nutters running around out there.

Go to the loo, 'cause all the *beep*'s coming out your mouth instead of your a-hole...

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With all the effed up movies out there you shouldn't be worried about my 7/9 yr old siblings watching this. It's a movie.

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Are you *beep*ing insane?? It's an eighteen, it's torture porn, for all intents and purposes the dappy woman is breaking the law; under no circumstances should the undeveloped brain of a youngster who is lacking the mental capacity to understand what they are seeing be allowed to view such a film. There have been years of psychological tests undertaken to ascertain how and why people develop neuroticism and psychoticism (the two defining characteristics of a serial killer) and plenty of them clearly outline childhood trauama (and yes, these films definitely fit that description). Either you are lying, or your mum truly is a disgustingly poor parent who should be given some lessons in proper parenting. My children will one day have to walk the streets with your siblings on the loose at night. That scares me.

Go to the loo, 'cause all the *beep*'s coming out your mouth instead of your a-hole...

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I've never seen such blatant immature and childish responses in my life. If this were the case, then movies like this would be barred from ever being featured on television, where my family watched it, or any 3 dollar bargain bin at a movie store. If there has been tests as such that you're claiming, then by all means link me to a few, cause right now you sound completely absurd. At the end of the day my siblings, none of which I'm guessing you have of your own, are mature enough to act on their own accord and psychology differentiate right from wrong. They can watch a movie solely for its entertainment purposes and know it is just that. That's why liability warnings don't come at the end of them. Unless you can show indisputable proof on the contrary your rationale is about as absurd as it's gonna get. And seeing that I am of a large family and not ONE of them has been gullible enough to act on something so atrociously obvious and ridiculous as what's seen in neighbour.


Yeah, kids watched Jason too and they started chasing teens around with butcher knife as soon as they saw it. The only thing that scares me is your close-minded perception of a child's gullibility.

EDIT: I did you one better, random research link

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread830534/pg1


Read the comments, unless you truly have siblings/kids of your own you truly have NO idea (as far as THIS topic's concerned) about the effects on their behaviour other than hearsay or your OWN experiences. I guarantee the majority of people that would willingly side with your argument, and seeing that you and ONE OTHER person called me out on this I'm assuming that's PRETTY much zilch, have no younger siblings/children of their own.

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The simple fact of the matter is, the film is an 18. Your mother is deciding she knows better than a board of advisors. Every child is different, every human is different, as the article outlines. But to allow an undeveloped brain witness such gory horror on screen when they are too young to truly appreciate the difference between real and fake is just irresponsible.

Then again you are American and I am British; our opinions on what is approriate in regards to a number of different topics will probably vary greatly. I think having custom designed rifles in pink plastic for five year old children is irresponsible too. Call me crazy. Oh no, wait, a five year old shot his two year old brother in the head with one. Maybe I spoke too soon?

Your siblings may be fine. But there are some sick, twisted people out there who do sick and twisted things and if you were to have an insight into what their childhood was like you would likely find poor parenting or access to inapropriate materials an issue with many of them. Just because you promise that your siblings are fine doesn't mean I'm going to sleep any easier at night.

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Again, you're being narrow-winded. Look how many games, tv shows, movies, and of the like give you an age-rating and it ends up being completely off. I'm sure my mom knows 'her own kids' better than a team of'advisors' do. And now you're also grasping at straws. You have no idea what a 7 and 9 year old can differentiate unless you actually have a 7 and 9 year old sibling, son, cousin, etc, and even then that could be JUST for your siblings, not mine.



And seeing as I know MY siblings better than you or any advisors do, and my mom knows her children better than you or any advisors do it's her call at the end of the day. Fine, you found one (among several) instance of child on child violence, stacked that up to the many, MANY of people that have clearly attested to having those elements in their life and didn't go on killing sprees or blah blah blah.

And tbh I could care less about you sleeping at night; you already have your mind made up obviously and nothing I say - regardless of how compelling the argument may be - will change that. All I know is that my parents are involved in my siblings life more than you could ever know, and if THEY (my siblings) can't tell right from wrong, then organically - as far back as the conception of parenting goes - my parents are there to teach them those values, like they've ALWAYS done.





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The fact is, your parents have raised you to the extent that you "love the Saw films" and are a "gore-man". Had you lived in the Roman times, you would have been that guy at the front row of the Colosseum praising the slaves as they hacked people to pieces. Some objected, but most absolutely loved it. It catered to all the "gore-men" out there, as you put it.

I loved the first Saw film because it had an engaging story, an immense sound track, a killer twist and a unique concept. I found the later films a pathetic attempt at catering to people's sick gore obsession.

Just because gore and violence and torture and rape and general horrifying concepts are considered okay to have on TV doesn't actually make it right. You are right in regards to the authorities - just because a body of people give you their opinion or even push it upon you doesn't make it right. There are also countless examples of people being guided by society in the wrong direction - look up the Milgram experiment. It goes a long way to explain how the Nazis were so successful.

The fact remains that torture and gore and sadism and openly accepted by people today because they see it on TV and think it is okay to view it and shrug it off. The scenes depicted in these films are experienced by innocents the world over, such as some of the more war torn areas in Africa. Yet here we sit in our armchairs, enjoying the "concept" of horrific torture happening to other people, all under the pretense that it's okay because it's not real, that it's fiction.

And for the record, I have cousins of that age and they are lovely kids who I'm sure have gotten their hands on inappropriate material in their time, but not because their parents put it in front of them.

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Well again, it's all subjectivity since you've yet to provide me with any evidence that movie violence, or of the like, have directly resulted in people killing other people, becoming murders, or committing random sense of violence.


I think it's very easy for you to come to such conclusions and have assumptions of my family when fact of the matter is a lot of what you're saying is heavily opinionated rather than based on facts that you can cite.


For the record, I gave this movie a poor rating. It had no substance, or any kind of plot. TBH, I know of, and don't care for, those very examples it ONLY shows that society can be influenced by just about anything, but that doesn't mean you're going keep your cousins locked in a shelter with no windows or doors, block them from ever watching TV, or tuning into a radio for the rest of their life? No, you (or any parental figure) at their discretion, are there to tell them what's right from wrong. And giving my "Love of Saw Films" and admittedly being a "gore-man" as you've eloquently quoted, doesn't physically put me or my family and harm, it's safe to put those assumptions to rest.


The only thing I can really agree with you here on is that our being exposed to what we see in the media, ANY form of the media - whether it be movies, NEWS, or other - has made us desensitized to what happens around the world. But to call my parents bad and come to such conclusions it's twice as dangerous, because in a way, it isn't ANY different than that very same argument you're using against me about societies ease of persuasion to 'beliefs', or how Hitler came to power, or in recent memory, the Rwandan Genocide.

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The precedure is called sounding. If done right it doesnt produce blood. But obviously The Girl ment to do wrong here.

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Depends on how you define doing it "wrong". As torture she did it fairly correct. This form of torture was actually thought up by the Romans. Only real difference is they would force the victim to drink large amounts of ale first. Then with the glass rod broken inside the penis the victims blatter would burst causing agonizingly painful death. The Romans concocted a number of sick forms of torture and execution.

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