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I think Joaquin's music was actually pretty good


I mean, in the context of this whole production, you'd think they'd make his songs deliberately bad. However, I thought they were catchy. When Joaquin was showing some of his tracks to Sean Combs, I thought, "If this were a real album, I'd buy it."

Maybe it just adds to the message. Joaquin's songs were good but he still failed as a musician.

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Nah, they were clearly written to be terrible from the start. The lyrics are cliche garbage and don't even rhyme half the time, he delivers it with no rhythm or flow, he's off key, sings at too low or too high of a volume (never the right one), etc.

I think the OP just likes bad rap music unfortunately. I mean as much as I hate to be the guy saying some form of music is better than another, this was meant to be bad from the start...


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Nah, they were clearly written to be terrible from the start. The lyrics are cliche garbage and don't even rhyme half the time, he delivers it with no rhythm or flow, he's off key, sings at too low or too high of a volume (never the right one), etc.

I think the OP just likes bad rap music unfortunately. I mean as much as I hate to be the guy saying some form of music is better than another, this was meant to be bad from the start...



This. It was pretty hilarious.

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Or maybe its just hard to tell? With this particular genre?

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Is this relay that different then half the stuff out there?

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It was obvious he practiced hard to be able to perform the way he did. I agree, he had some raw talent. I don't think they wanted to polish the diamond so to speak because if he were too good, it would leave the realm of Andy Kaufman and just be a solid performance.

If he had any production it could have been far better. Also, he was presenting all wrong. What I mean is, you could have the best street rapping skills, but if you take them to a stage in front of thousands of people in a dance club, not only can they not dance to it, they probably won't enjoy it for very long. There's something to be said about adding in back up vocals, and more sounds and music. JP went up to the stage with nothing but a generic back beat played way too low, and his own rapping. And even then people were cheering so much I almost think he jumped off the stage for a "fight" because it was going too well.

If you put him up with Rihanna for example and he brought all the effort he put into this, nobody would even be questioning if he were serious.

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Joaquin(or Casey Affleck I can't remember who)said on the commentary that they couldn't have Joaquin's music be "too good" otherwise the whole point of the joke would be basically obsolete. It's funnier(or sadder?)that his music isn't THAT good.

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I liked a lot of the beats, especially the one that played during the concert where he attacks an audience member. Had a nice piano accompanying it.

But the lyrics and his voice were indeed awful.

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His stuff isnt bad but clearly amateur night. His songs sound like stuff me and my other DJ friends used to do in our "studio" starting out back in the day. Its good but, still rough around the edges. And the one thing a rapper should ALWAYS have is his lyrics clear and audible to the audience.

Joaquin's lyrics were okay, but his flow was way off and sloppy.

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It's supposed to be bad.
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Can I get a refund... WHAT?!?!

You cheesy lot of second hand electric donkey-bottom biters!

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