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100% Torture Porn Label

posted 15 years ago by DreamWarrior1
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I never really liked to label these type of movies torture porn, I always thought they were a little bit better than that, but in this case this move emphasizes this 100%. I mean it has some terrible sexual situations that well.. would gross you out, hence the title of the movie. I enjoy quality more than quantity and all this movie seems to do is focus on the quantity of gore instead of any kind of quality story. I guess I can't really be disappointed after all you can't expect much from a porn movie.

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[–] shargraves 15 years ago

indeed - pain 10 and teeny slave are two of my fave movies - but they ain't horror, they are torture porn :o)

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[–] The_Celluloid_Sage 15 years ago

And exactly how may I ask is this classed as porn in any term of the word?

yeah its sadistic, but porn?

Tell you what mate, why don't you jump 'off' the bandwagon and get on with your life eh?

Leave the rest of us to it...

Let it ride...

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[–] doublethink03 15 years ago

Because it functions in a similar way as porn does. It's not about the story at all, not about suspense, it's all about seeing the act of fornication or in this case torture/violence/murder.

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[–] DreamWarrior1 15 years ago

exactly, torture without any substance except to create some kind of stimulating reaction amounts to porn, not adult porn per say, but torture porn. i know this point has been made with other movies, but i disagree with most of those opinions but understood it. this movie unfortunately reinforces those points made and i can see it in this film more clearly than any other

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[–] NoseofNicko 15 years ago

Eh, sorry, but the torture isn't suppose to create a stimulating reaction, what the *beep* are you talking about? Where did you get that? The torture is supposed to disturb and disgust.

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[–] DreamWarrior1 15 years ago

disturb and disgust is stimulating the nerves, you just dont get it.

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[–] sepsism 14 years ago

disturb and disgust is stimulating the nerves, you just dont get it.

So anything that "stimulates the nerves" is automatically "porn"? Your argument has more holes than a butchered whore.

I'm sure you mean no harm to the horror genre and it's fans, but please refrain from feeding the anti-horror goody-good moral-highgrounder f#ckwits with ridiculous anti-horror terminology.

If fictional horror violence (no matter how extreme and pointless) can be considered sexually stimulating or arousing in any way to normal horror fans, then we may all as well be considered sexually deviant psychopathic serial-killers in waiting.

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[–] tume-x 14 years ago

"Because it functions in a similar way as porn does. It's not about the story at all, not about suspense, it's all about seeing the act of fornication or in this case torture/violence/murder."

With that logic any film would just be "porn". Comedy would be Laughing Porn, because we all wait for the parts that make us laugh. Action would be Action Porn, we all really wait for the action hero to take out his/her gun and start shooting people. It can't be Torture "Porn" because it doesn't make 90% of people sexually aroused, just like a Comedy doesn't.

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[–] TheBeardedWonder 14 years ago

My thoughts as well. Just because it's not about the story doesn't mean it's classified as a porn. Porn is sex acts specifically shot to arouse someone else watching, in a sexual way. This obviously doesn't do that.

I agree with the 'no such thing' as torture porn argument. These movies have been around for decades. They were billed as exploitation or grind-house when they started... why would the term change out of nowhere?

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[–] larry-gold 14 years ago

Porn is sex acts specifically shot to arouse someone else watching, in a sexual way. This obviously doesn't do that.

Thats hope not, but in this sick world, who knows

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[–] boramaster 13 years ago

A small suggestion: 'torture porn' = 'torn' possibly with the quote marks included. Kinda suggestive in a way also.

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[–] jprahn01 10 years ago

Porn doesn't have to mean just sex; a lot of people call the Food Network "food porn." Upworthy videos have been called "emotion porn." I think porn just mean an extreme emphasis on something really basic or carnal.

In the case of movies like this, the whole reason for the movie to exist is to show torture.

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[–] Nephilim-6 15 years ago

'Torture porn' is an incorrect term made up by critic David Edelstein in January 2006 to describe Exploitation films.

Sure 'torture porn' rolls off the tongue nicely but the films it applies to are simply Exploitation films which have been around for ages.
Particularly in the 60's and 70's these kinds of films were excessively graphic.
Just look at stuff like 'I Spit On Your Grave' and 'Ilsa She-Wolf Of The SS'. Sure those were made on a shoestring budget but basically it's the same thing. Over the top torture and sexual violence. Some may have a semblance of morality in there somewhere but the focus of these films is just the nasty stuff going on.

And that's okay, I like those films, but I just get so annoyed by everyone yelling 'Torture Porn' at the top of their lungs as if it's some kind of new thing.

Did you ever notice that people who believe in creationism look really un-evolved? - Bill Hicks

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[–] TheDelusionist 14 years ago

Well said! Plus most movies ignorant people call Torture Porn don't even have nudity so..

Seems to me you're just plain scared

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[–] Nephilim-6 14 years ago

Well there's often a few pairs of tits in there lol ;)

Sad thing is however, calling it torture porn also makes the allusion that people who watch these films get off on violence/torture. Which is rarely the case. There's always some sick people out there who do, but for the most part viewers of exploitation enjoy it on the same level as movie lovers of any other genre.

Did you ever notice that people who believe in creationism look really un-evolved? - Bill Hicks

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[–] qholway 13 years ago

Just to get this straight;

Torture porn is the wrong thing to call it cos porn describes something designed to make people 'get off', right?

Many people snidely correct the term in this way, suggesting that the person who uses it is simply jumping on the bandwagon, being lazy, using cliche etc.

Often these people prefer the word 'exploitation', like Nephilim-6. They think this describes the film. It's an 'exploitation film'.

Please explain who or what is exploited, would you? I just want to know how the word 'exploitation' describes a film of this kind any more succinctly and accurately than 'torture porn'.

I'm pretty sure you'll find the exploitation angle is more to do with the way the film is marketed and advertised.

But tell me.

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[–] Nephilim-6 13 years ago

From Wikipedia:

"Exploitation film is a type of film that is promoted by "exploiting" often lurid subject matter. The term "exploitation" is common in film marketing, used for all types of films to mean promotion or advertising. These films then need something to exploit, such as a big star, special effects, sex, violence, romance, etc. An exploitation film, however, relies heavily on sensationalist advertising and broad and lurid overstatement of the issues depicted, regardless of the intrinsic quality of the film. Very often, exploitation films are of low quality in every sense. Even so, exploitation films sometimes attract critical attention and cult followings."

Why invent a name for something that already has a name? These films aren't a new phenomena.

Did you ever notice that people who believe in creationism look really un-evolved? - Bill Hicks

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[–] Sonnengott 13 years ago

Yes. This is torture porn at its very worst. Almost NO development, nothing redeeming, just jerk off material for sick *beep* No one should ever see this piece of *beep* I kinda feel bad that I am not able to rate this *beep* lower than 1, because I gave "Hostel 2" a rating of "1" and this *beep* is just, well, *beep*
However, "Hostel 2" was torture porn while still being a movie. THIS is not even a movie. I have seen fetish porn that had more storyline than this ginormous turd. DO NOT WATCH!

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[–] lorddeano 13 years ago

Maaaan, if lot rate this as as torture porn you are pretty pathetic.

I dont recall there being one sex scene in this film, or in Saw or Hostel for that matter!! Torture Porn doesnt exist, and if it does they would atleast have sex in them. If I was watching a porno and someone got tortured, that would be torture porn.

Who watches porno's without a single sex scene?

"What your mother and I must know, is.."

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[–] violet_yoshi 13 years ago

Maybe they were making a joke of the crybabies who howl torture porn whenever a film like Saw & Hostel come out. I'd like to think so. Those whiners have no understanding or respect for the horror film genre. They should stick to baby cartoons, instead of trolling message boards saying the movie is by poo poo heads.

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[–] romainsimoni-1 13 years ago

I'm one of the few that thinks Hostel and its sequel was more than "torture porn" because the whole system behind the hostel was an intriguing and disturbing (and depressing) possibility.
With that in mind, I looked forward to this movie, and honestly, I can't call it anything other than pure torture porn garbage. What's the story, the idea, motivation, anything? No, just tie people up and torture them to death.

I'm not implying that people who liked the movie are sick bastards, just stating that this movie is garbage and serves no purpose other than disturb.

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[–] robatmuskoka 11 years ago

yes

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[–] seth-shaw23 9 years ago

I think the title 'Porn' should be limited to things that are intended to be sexually arousing. Although there is significant nudity, this movie is in no way pornographic. It's simply a well made gross-out torture movie with minimal plot. I actually kind of liked it but would definitely not watch it again.

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[–] asiamatron 9 years ago

I think the moniker is often misinterpreted: I don't think it is called torture porn because it's meant to make people horny. I reckon it is called that because the camera focuses on the gory details the same way a porno would focus on the sexual stuff. The camera gets close and doesn't cut away from the bodily fluids.

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