Instead of stealing ideas and names, they should just put in an ounce of mental effort and create something of their own. It must be pretty pathetic to work for this film company, knowing that the only thing they can ever offer the world, is a knock-off of something someone superior to them created.
shareI think you're missing the point of these movies and the company that makes them. It's not about originality, it's about making some money off the back of another movie. The people on the set may have alternate reasons for being involved with these films, like learning the craft and such (bit of a guess on my part there) but for the financeers and the production company itself, it's all about money.
shareBut DO these movies make any money? I mean, I know they must because The Asylum (the production company) keeps pumping them out. I can't stop thinking; How?! People actually rent this $hit?!! If you want a good laugh, check out the wiki page for The Asylum and read all the titles of their releases. Hilarious.
shareAccording to Asylum every single one of their mockbusters has turned a profit.
sharewho gives a crap hollywoods been regurgitating ideas for the past 10 years even more than that
shareYes, but that's due mostly to incompetence. The Asylum makes it into a goal.
sharelol, this is redicilous.
I guess their business plan makes sense... until Jim Cameron's lawyer calls up The Asylum, going: "You had a good run guys... but now you're gonna get fxxxed by the long stick of the law."
I'm gonna watch "The Terminators" at some point, but I'm not gonna pay for it;) since I know it's crap. (I have to consume everything sci-fi... it's a compulsion.)
Mike
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OK, I've watched it, and it was indeed surprisingly poor. You would not believe it if I told you. It comes across as a censored porn movie, quality wise.
And I don't think James Cameron will be calling anytime soon, since saying this movie reminds too much of his work would be laughable.
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cos obviously nearly every movie coming out of hollywood at present isnt either a remake or sequel. or indeed a sequel to a remake.
or is it when its done with a bigger budget or just american speech its ok???
I should point out, Cameron himself boosted the idea for Terminator. It was loosely based on a pair of Outer Limits episodes written by Harlan Ellison.
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Everything comes from a prior idea and is just an advancement on that said idea. First, someone had to figure out what a musical note was. Then those notes had to be combined in a variety of orders to make chords (or whatever). Do you think that the very first person who realized what musical tone is got pissed at the first person who combined different tones to make chords or melodies or whatever? Then, some time later, a monkey retard child figured out that charcoal could be used to make markings on other stuff. They drew a straight line on the wall of a cave and the rest of it's (notice the way I'm being indifferent to it's sex) clan worshiped them as some type of retard monkey prophet. Then an even more retarded monkey drew another line through the first line and made a cross (or an X depending on what angle you were looking at it from), then his protegee drew some more lines that intersected with the X lines to make some form of primitive representation of something they liked. Then over a very long span of time, more retards added to the original retard monkey's ideas and we ended up with Leonardo De Vinci. Between each of these individual points of evolutionary leap frog there were a bunch of other retard monkeys that figured out loads of other stuff that all added to all the other loads of other stuff that the previous retard monkeys figured out and it all ended up in what we have today; a bunch of stuff that makes us be able to survive and live the way we do because a bunch of retard monkeys came up with ideas based on the ideas of their dead predecessor retard tutors and over time all the workings of a bunch of retarded monkeys has made us believe we're not retarded monkeys. Stuff comes from other stuff. It always has and always will. You can't have words without having a series of letters to construct them from.
But then you have to remember that, for a while, loads of other retard monkeys copied the first retard's charcoal line and told the not retard monkeys in the surrounding clans that it was his idea. Then some of those not retarded monkeys became retarded monkeys by taking the line idea and adding to it with new retard ideas. Over the course of time millions of retards added millions of lines to the original retarded monkeys line to create the Mona Lisa.
Think of the term 'Slasher Film'. How many thousands of films fit that description and conform to the exact same rules as all the rest. Theoretically, it could be argued that they're all technically the same story. The same is true of American sitcoms; click, joke, click, click, joke, joke, joke, click, joke, click, click, joke, joke etc. etc. (substitute click with canned laughter)theoretically it could be argued that they're all technically the same.
You don't have people arguing that 'O Brother Where Art Thou' is a rip off of 'Homer's Odyssey' so in reality who really cares if some dudes took an already well established and successful story that hundreds of millions of people have seen and made a really really crap copy of it that about thirty six people have seen.
Who cares? It was funny to watch. And - the dudes made a few pound without causing harm to anyone else.
You see - retarded monkeys have all schooled a bunch of other retarded monkeys and we ended up firstly with 'Terminator' then other retards came up with 'The Terminators' and a bunch of not retarded monkeys watched it and came on here giving out about all the retards.
"In the beginning, we were all fish. Okay? Swimming around in the water. And then one day a couple of fish had a retard baby, and the retard baby was different, so it got to live. So Retard Fish goes on to make more retard babies, and then one day, a retard baby fish crawled out of the ocean with its... ...mutant fish hands... and it had butt sex with a squirrel or something and made this. Retard frog-sqirrel, and then *that* had a retard baby which was a... monkey-fish-frog... And then this monkey-fish-frog had butt sex with that monkey, and that monkey had a mutant retard baby that screwed another monkey... and that made you! So there you go! You're the retarded offspring of five monkeys having butt sex with a fish-squirrel! Congratulations!" Mrs Garrison
and yet so many peopel who saw it complains, showing that they actually watch it, so....
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sorry to burst your bubble, but indestructible murderous robots wasn't really an original idea when the first arnold movie came out.
shareTo the person who really started this thread, I heavily agree with you hands down. I'd say it's just another cheap rip-off for sci-fi junkies and a mockery of Schwarzenegger's iconic 1984 action film.
Let's face it, the filmmakers who made this movie certainly have no talent whatsoever. When I saw the movie, I lost interest within 20 minutes of the film. I started to ask myself, "Why the hell did I watch this anyway?"
"The Terminators?" HA! James Cameron was the genuine director who paved the way for several celebrities we now recognize today. It was his talent that captured my attention as well as several others who look up to him.
The filmmakers made a run-of-the-mill movie that lacks any interest. Those low-lifes!
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I guess that wouldn't be as much fun!
I don't know maybe because since 30 years 70% or so of the cinematographic industry is made of recycled ideas.
Without arguing from who James Cameron "stole" the idea of machine taking control of man who gave birth to Terminator scenario.
The Asylum just do what Hollywood do but to a much lower scale.
Take Transformer for instance (let's not skip a perfectly good occasion to spit on Michael Bay)
The original concept has been bought to the Japanese almost 30 years ago. Once the basic concept of Robots Turning into object acquired and deal signed. Hasbro and Takara created Transformers as we know it.
A 25 years old TV Show brought to the silver screen, wow talk about mental effort and creation there.
150 millions of dollars invested into a 25 years old idea who earned about 700 millions worldwide (despite being an absolute piece of crap)
Whenever I'll get the chance I'll watch Transmorphers: Fall of Man. Because I've been dragged to Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen by a friend with free tickets and I couldn't sit through this garbage. I had to leave the theatre about half-way because I couldn't hold it any longer. It was a very hot day with no wind and the theatre had air conditioning and I hate heat. But being hot will starting at a guy cleaning the carpet was that much more entertaining that Transformers 2.
So as far as getting their own ideas go. You should ask billions of dollar Studios that spend hundreds of millions dollars over decade old ideas or into third and fourth instalment of the same crap they did 18 months ago, to get creative.
Because more than half of the movies you pay for are made or remade from something already done because it was the safer choice against taking a chance of producing some original concept.
I'm sure that whether Tranphormers is made by Leigh Scott for 150.000$ or by Michael Bay for 150.000.000$ those movie are still going to be P.O.S. anyway.
At least with The Asylum making knock-off of blockbusters some people get a salary and avoid foreclosure on their homes.
Is English your second language?
shareIf there is a sequel to The Terminators, what do you call it?
shareAlthough I haven't seen any of The Asylum's films, I have read about several of them. I would like to point out that they're using TITLES similar to those of blockbusters to cash in, but usually the stories are either adaptations of the same source material old enough to be in the public domain (i.e. "I Am Legend") or something completely different (as in this one, which seems to have only vague similarities to the Terminator franchise also exhibited by many other action-scifi films.)
And, quite frankly, I'm glad they did a mockbuster knockoff of "Pirahna 3D." 'Cause... come on. Pirahnas? That movie deserves whatever it gets.
Although Hollywood doesn't have that many original ideas, at least for the most part they put their own spin on things and you get a higher quality product (Very much a product as opposed to art) at the end of it.
The problem is there is no original idea anywhere to be found in these films and no quality either. They are cobbled together over a short period so as to hitch a ride on the success of bigger, better films. They are the movie equivilent of parasites.
The sad thing is, that the original movie in this case (the first terminator movie) was made over 25 years ago, you would of thought even with a small budget that with todays technology that they'd be able to get pretty close to the quality of that film, but they're miles off here.
Everyone is free to have their own opinion, it's just most of the time, it's wrong.
It's like when Hollywood gives those FX guys a chance to direct a movie. It always sucks because these jerks offs aren't story tellers. They do FX. Keep them behind the computer.
Every single person at the Aslyum is the same only they are corporate type, bean counting, penny pinchers. They don't know how to tell a story. Just how to stuff a load of *beep* into a dvd case. They how know to make a product. A product that sells. It's unfortunate that so many people keep consuming this *beep* to the point where they think its a steak sandwich.
I have some friends who love this crap. They love to get high and watch this and make fun of it. I point to them as the real problem here. If they didn't consume this junk then there would be no reason to make it.
So, don't totally blame the complete hackery machine at the Aslyum and other bottom feeding production companies for this world's blight. It's all you stoners out there as well. You freaks who smoke banana peels and giggle at giant poop shark vs vomitoid. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
P.S. I watched The Terminators and found it to be really lame. Then again I was smoking lead paint chips at the time...
You mean like the creative geniuses at major studios who only know two words: "Remake" and "Reboot"?
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Sure studios may remake movies, but they do it legally. The creators are either involved or sold their property. The Asylum does it without permission. Their marketing is misleading. I live in Mexico and the release of Halloween Night actually used the tagline "The Night he came come" and stated "A horror classic is back to stay" while only being titled Halloween: Noche de brujas" (Witch night), a subtitle that is used many times for the original Halloween here. They even used a similar white Micheal Myers- style mask on the box.
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