"Another Strawman" Debunked
So these demented fanatics will first claim that "This is simply because they weren't smart enough to understand TDKR and are sad and bitter that the film was very successful yet didn't use the Joker." but then when 100% called out on this fallacy will turn around and say "There are people out there who claim that the people who bash TDKR are only doing it because it didn't have the Joker. First of all I don't know of anyone who says that is the only reason,"
This is an example of the demented inconsistent way their minds work. They also have no argument whatsoever other than "you didn't get/understand it" and then will claim to debunk all your criticisms when they in fact never even come close to properly addressing them. This is very dishonest position the demented fanatics rely on because they have no argument that supports the claim that Rises is a perfect film.
They also do not understand bad pacing. Dark Knight is an example of perfect pacing, never too fast but never lingers; takes exactly as long as it needs to and properly builds tension across the entire run time. Rises has terrible pacing that starts at a snail pace, jarringly jacks the pacing for about 15 minutes and then slows to crawl again until the last 15 minutes of the film. It is actually one of the worst paced action/comic book films ever made. The only counter argument the demented fans can make? Yup it is the same shit; 'it is perfect paced and you just don't get it because you ignorant.
Also they will still not address the plot holes such as the magical disappearing knee brace; they will legitimately claim because it was not shown to be removed we should assume it was left on despite all of the batman gear being removed; then when called out on this logic inconsistency they will say 'no it wasn't left on, but you just don't see it get removed' also 'breaking your back is the perfect cure to magically regrow destroyed cartilage in your knee'.
Then watch as the demented fans respond to you sarcastically mock them by literally doing the same joke that you are doing, because are too dumb to come up with anything on their own. but they will try to bad mouth you to other posters behind your back when you try to ignore them.