The "haters just wanted Joker" fallacy
Some claim that the ONLY reason people bash dark knight Rises is because it 'did well' without having the Joker is it at all. This is by definition a fallacy as literally NO ONE has made the argument saying "it needed the joker" or anything even close to that. All the criticism are about the disappointing anti-climatic finale, silly plot holes, over reliance exposition dialogue, generally speaking lazy writing (Blake's I just looked at you and knew you were batman type lazy dialogue), and most importantly the terrible pacing. Of the Nolan films Rises has the worst pacing.
No where, and I mean NO WHERE in this criticisms is there anything about the Joker not being present. 100% fallacy argument, made by those with weak arguments that can't defend this film. Pathetic.
The demented fans that make this argument will badger and harass you and constantly respond to literally everything you write and try to push you off the site and the board so they can continue in their deluded fantasy. They will call you immature for calling out their asinine B.S. and will constantly make' counter arguments' that often have nothing to do with the point you are talking about.