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The Latin American Addams Family...


More hollywood forced diversity trash

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So what are they intended to be then? Here is the original appearance. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ec/ea/8d/ecea8dbbb5430fc55e903bc3a83cbc4a.jpg

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There has yet to be an instance of Wednesday looking like a mestizo.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6AWlVOMWt10/maxresdefault.jpg

I know you leftist trolls scour the internet trying to pretend historically white characters aren't being racially altered, but it's just making more and more people angry.

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I'm not a leftist. Is that the best you can do as far as insults go?

What does Wednesday look like here? https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ec/ea/8d/ecea8dbbb5430fc55e903bc3a83cbc4a.jpg
She seems to be very generic.

Do you prefer an actress with a Scots-Irish background and an Italian name to anyone with a mixed native American and European heritage?

As Cdr Spock said, "A difference that makes no difference is no difference at all". That is good advice even if it was written by James Blish and attributed to a fictional character.

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What does Wednesday look like here?


She looks super pale with black hair. Like Christina Ricci, who is ethnically Italian....

The new actress clearly has brown skin for Wednesday. Which is not what that picture you keep sharing looks like, right?

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My life does not revolve around race. Good luck living the way you do. Most people don't really give a crap about issues like this. Remember that they are fictional characters.

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Glad you acknowledge that this is another white skinned character that has been changed to be non white.

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I said nothing of the sort. You should stick to the facts and things you can prove instead of stuff you make up.

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WTF! Gomez is Spanish.

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Think of the name "Gomez" (which it's always been) before you post such racial stupidity. Stupidity being the key word.

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Yup

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To be fair, Spanish and Latin American are not synonymous. The people in Latin America are largely a mix, with a healthy dose of indigenous blood and culture. Luis Guzman is a strange casting for a character who is supposed to be Spanish.

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yeah but isnt this an American show? Spanish people are very rare in America compared to Latin Americans which are extremely common. if this show was European I agree being Spanish makes more sense but Mexicans living in America makes way more sense since most of the South West of America was stolen from Mexico at one point and there cultures are intertwined

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Well I don't think they should change the characters stated origins. The creators said he is Spanish, Castillian to be precise.

Raul Julia was a great choice.

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I agree they should alway stay thru to original material but in this case moving from Spanish to Mexican isnt too bad since it kinda makes sense and Mexicans are pretty much all part Spanish (the rich land owners close to 100 percent i would imagine) At least they didnt turn a white person black or completely change someones race to sometime completely different for shock value like most libturded shows. plus Mexican culture is one of the best cultures when it comes to celebrating death with the day of the dead and stuff so the switch from Spanish to Mexican kinda adds to the story more than takes away from it. plus most McMuricans are too dumb to even know Spain is a country and think its just a city in Mexico lol

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Gomez was conceived as a very strange looking short man with bad teeth. Guzman fits that description perfectly.

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STFU you idiot ....😂

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This is why you right wing idiots are never taken seriously outside your crowd. You just whine for whining's sake.

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For the not to bright having a go at the OP without even knowing what they are talking about.

Gomez specifically is Castilian/Spanish. You know Spain on the continent of Europe. Morticia family coming form Salem.

Spain and Salem unless geography and countries have changed since I was at school is not and has never been Latin America.

They also have roots in eastern Europe with the dance "The Mamushka" and the "Mazurka". Last time I checked again Eastern Europe wasn't in South America.

What a world we live in where you get called "racial stupidity", "idiot", "right wing idiots" just for pointing out the truth.

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Spaniards have been spreading their influence (and genes) around the world for hundreds of years. From Africa, to the Americas and Asia, you can find Spain's influence and offspring.

https://lingua.edu/the-21-spanish-speaking-countries-and-the-spanish-of-each-country/

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Well done you have pointed out countries that speak Spanish. Good for you. I'm happy for you. Still doesn't make them Spanish. Brazil speak Portuguese but they are not Portuguese are they, they are Brazilian.

Nealry the entire world speaks English but they are not English either.

Latin America are not Spaniards no matter what they speak.

Gomez is Castilian Spanish not South American. So the Op is right.

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You think the Spanish spread their language without spreading sleeping with the natives?

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Not as much as you think.

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I think they did it every chance they had. Why do you think otherwise?

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Small dicks.

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The World TRIES to speak English.

Outside of England, they all fail. Lol

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THE OP IS A MORON AND YOU ARE A MORON'S SIDEPIECE. NOEMOJI

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Yes giving out factual information regarding a subject is now moronic. Then i'm moronic.

Still right though. Get over it

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IT'S EASY TO BE RIGHT WHEN YOU SKEW FACTS TO COVER FICTIONAL TELEVISION BASES. NOEMOJI

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Except he's not skewing facts. He's actually 100% right. Prior to the TV series, the characters, which had been appearing in cartoons in "The New Yorker," didn't even have names. Charles Addams provided them to the producers of the series, and then the producers of the series filled in the backstory, with Addams' blessing. In the series, Gomez absolutely was explicitly portrayed as being of Castilian Spanish ancestry, and Morticia's maiden name was Frump (which is very far from a Hispanic name) and her family had roots going back to Salem, Massachusetts.

So he's not wrong on his facts, and name-calling and typing all in caps won't make him so. Spaniards are Europeans, just like Frenchmen and Italians and Belgians and Germans, etc. and they're generally as white other Europeans, not brown-skinned Mestizos who have interbred with aboriginal Americans for hundreds of years. I don't particularly mind the moving of Gomez's family origin to Mexico, and casting brown-skinned Luis Guzman and Jenna Ortega (especially since I think Ortega nails her character), but it is a departure from the way Gomez and Wednesday have been depicted for over sixty years.

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Spanish erasure is bigotry! Spanish lives matter! Racist Netflix's attitude is "Who cares? Brown people are all the same."

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Refresh my memory. Did the racist nutballs post this kind of foolishness on IMDB, when the Puerto Rican Raul Julia was cast as Gomez Addams in the movie versions?

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Raul Julia was white. White Hispanic, but he was white. He was Puerto Rican, but he was clearly, genetically, mostly white European. This idea of Hispanic means non-European, is a recent, anti-Western thing. You do understand that Spanish heritage is European heritage, right? That is, Spain is as much a part of Europe as France or Belgium or Germany. In fact it is arguably even more a part of European heritage then English blood is -- after all, Spain is connected to the same continent that France or Germany is; England is geographically separated from it.

As I have already said

Prior to the TV series, the characters, which had been appearing in cartoons in "The New Yorker," didn't even have names. Charles Addams provided them to the producers of the series, and then the producers of the series filled in the backstory, with Addams' blessing. In the series, Gomez absolutely was explicitly portrayed as being of Castilian Spanish ancestry, and Morticia's maiden name was Frump (which is very far from a Hispanic name) and her family had roots going back to Salem, Massachusetts.


Spanish conquistadors mixed more with aboriginal Americans than English colonists did, leading to a predominant mixed-ethnicity, brown-skinned population in south and central, versus north America. But Gomez Addams, in Charles Addams' original materal, is explicitly described as Castilian Spanish -- i.e. European -- and Raul Julia physically resembled that: Luis Guzman, more of a mestizo, does not. That's just a fact. As I have already said "I don't particularly mind the moving of Gomez's family origin to Mexico, and casting brown-skinned Luis Guzman and Jenna Ortega (especially since I think Ortega nails her character), but it is a departure from the way Gomez and Wednesday have been depicted for over sixty years."

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"This idea of Hispanic means non-European, is a recent, anti-Western thing. You do understand that Spanish heritage is European heritage, right?"

this remind of video i watch on youtube of emilio estevez, where he talk about his spanish heritage. many people in comment section were american hispanic and they all think emilio estevez (whitest man ever) is not white because of the name estevez hahahahahah. they think spain in europe mean you not white hahahahah. he have ONE grandparent from spain and they think he non-white minority hahahahahahaha. dumb fcks!

american are just so stupid and obsess with race that they think any white person not blond and from north europe is "mixed" or not white. even when white person has blond hair and blue eye (cameron diaz, brad pitt, emilio estevez) they still think they not white, so they are going to think raul julia and addams family is not white either.

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