From the guy who's made a career of questioning the "official story" it's really pathetic to see Stone swallow Chavez and Evo Morales' official story without batting an eye. Anybody with half a brain knows that these two guys (along with Correa in Ecuador, Ortega in Nicaragua, and Zelaya in Honduras) are crooks and tyrants.
shareAs opposed to the CIA? Who protected Black September terrorists and tried to kill Che Guevara? Who gave the Taliban training and weapons against the Russians only to have the Taliban use those weapons against their own people? Who were involved in the Kennedy assassination through Clay Shaw?
Whatever Chavez and Morales are (I'm not pretending they're saints or devils) they are not the only ones with blood on their hands.
A. Trying to kill Che Guevara, not that bad an idea. At the very least it would've stopped most potsmoking college kids (my peers) wearing his damn face on a T-shirt.
B. I love JFK the movie as much as the next guy but the CIA did not kill John F. Kennedy. If anything JFK was a less than stellar President who has become loved because he was attractive, charismatic, could talk the good talk, benefited from the hold over plans of his predecessor, and was killed before he could've made an ass of himself for the next 5 years.
There. It's on the Internet. Thus it's official
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Black September, the rise of Pinochet, issues in Salvador... The CIA has got a lot of blood on its hands for sure. As to whether JFK's is one of those whose blood was spilled on their account... well, I doubt very much that Lee H. Oswald acted alone.
And hell, common corporations do just as much damage. They go in and take advantage of the third world countries. Say what you will about Chavez and Castro. They tried to avoid that exploitation, and look what it got them. Smear campaigns liking them to Osama and Hitler, a 40-year long embargo that's STILL FRIGGIN THERE, and fast accusations flying in all directions.
Oh, and as "Lord of War" made it clear, the US should stop being so patronizing about rigged elections in other countries when Al Gore lost his presidency in 2000, and incidents of racism affected the ballot boxes even in the most recent election.
This thread operates on the unfounded assumption that Oliver Stone at some point posessed an iota of either credibility or integrity.
>>As to whether JFK's is one of those whose blood was spilled on their account... well, I doubt very much that Lee H. Oswald acted alone.<<
Thanks for establishing that nobody should take you seriously.
>>They go in and take advantage of the third world countries. Say what you will about Chavez and Castro. They tried to avoid that exploitation, and look what it got them. Smear campaigns liking them to Osama and Hitler, a 40-year long embargo that's STILL FRIGGIN THERE, and fast accusations flying in all directions. <<
Right, because it's not as though Castro established a blisteringly oppressive regime that executed and wrongfully imprisoned scores of innocents and completely squashed any notion of free speech or self-determination.
Oh, but let me guess, Castro is completely absolved of any wrong doing because of the embargo, right? Say, since we're bringing up numbers, how many years has it been since Cuba last had a major democratic election?
Oh yeah 'cause Batista and his mafia-supported regime was so great and democratic.
And while Castro has not been a saint, I maintain that some good has come out of his leadership.
Two of my friends recently went down to Cuba and came back with a lot of good things to say about it. The only thing they remarked on that was negative was how poor the country is. Well guess who's fault that could be? The country that's cutting off any trade from the island?
Say, since we're bringing up numbers, how many years has it been since Cuba last had a major democratic election?
"There's more democracy in Cuba then in the United States."
That's a joke right? Very funny.
A country that has had one-man rule for 51 years is not a democracy, or even close. That's called a DICTATORSHIP. Do you get it?
Th USA has had 11 presidents in that time.
"There's more democracy in Cuba then in the United States."
That's a joke right? Very funny.
A country that has had one-man rule for 51 years is not a democracy, or even close. That's called a DICTATORSHIP. Do you get it?
The USA has had 11 presidents in that time.
You must also think the US Government and the Zionist Jews had nothing to do with 9/11 (my favorite holiday by the ways but I usually work becuase its time and a half).
Grow a brain and start thinking for yourself rather than listening to the mainstream news media until then stick to your movies (Fast and Furious, Transformers, etc.).
Grow a brain and start thinking for yourself
It's the mark of all conspiracy theorists. They are only selectively skeptical. Like how creationists are endlessly skeptical about evolution, but absolutely blind when it comes to the narrative they support.
Makes it worse when he's clearly defending antisemites.
http://www.salon.com/life/this_week_in_crazy/index.html?story=/mwt/feature/2010/07/31/this_week_crazy_oliver_stone
and its been revealed he holds these views himself. He's gone from eccentrically crazy to disturbing and discredited. Its too bad. Like mel gibson, both had some talent, but the more we've learned about these people..the less there is to like.
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This thread confirms the radical left are all conspiracy theorists: jews killed JFK, corporations control the US, Cuba is a democratic utopia, Hugo (not Obama) is God.
Stop smoking pot and take the meds your shrink prescribed.