Wow. lets you know how dangerous an unarmed populace is...
he was free to reign terror... this wouldn't happen in texas or arizona.
shareBullsh*t. Doesn't matter if people are armed or not. This guy obviously took the time to plan out his attack. If someone goes through that amount of planning, I highly doubt some idiot waving a gun around thinking he's going to stop him will be successful. Sure, the person may have a bigger obstacle in Texas or Arizona, but if the person is from that area, they will most likely plan ahead for what they may face.
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having a gun gives you a fighting chance of survival. not having one. well you better be a good runner or master at hide n seek. emphasis on the hiding part. Oklahoma has very good gun laws. Hence why timothy mcveigh had to use explosives. he wouldn't be able to mow people down with a couple machine guns over there.
I'd rather die opposing some mad man than how those women died cowering in a corner in the salon. But what could they do? unarmed peasants. fish in a barrel. Not having a gun vs someone with a gun. How do you win? and no a rocket launcher doesn't count. Enlighten me. (and if you say some bs like ban all guns i will strangle you, there are over 200 million guns in the u.s. you're not putting the genie back in the bottle or the toothpaste back in the tube they are here to stay) also if i wanted an illegal weapon i can get one with ease in downtown l.a. just need the greenbacks. so that's a big fail. same reason why heroin is illegal. ppl still find it readily available.
Did you say Arizona? My state? My hometown where a gunman walked into a Safeway and shot up innocent people?
You might want stick with Texas on the examples
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And Max makes good point. I'd rather die with a gun in my hand shooting back than cowering in a corner with no other options
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I'll take my chances on a random, lone psychopath shooting everyone in a town over having to worry about going to eat or to the movies with a huge room full of trigger happy, gun toting people eager to "protect" themselves.
Honestly, I understand the temptation to view gun possession as the only way to defend oneself, but it's never really thought out well. There are stories everywhere about someone shooting a gun in the air at a party in celebration, only to cause a panic, leading others to pull their guns out and inevitably cause tragedies. Do you really want to be in a restaurant, in a classroom, or any other public space with the real possibility of this type of panic happening? Do you really want an 18 year old guy that you don't know sitting across from you at the food court, too much to drink, low intelligence, trying to impress his friends carrying a gun all the time??
I'd be happier if we worked on making it harder for nut jobs and immature gun freaks from being able to carry guns, not throw our hands up in defeat and hand one to everyone under the guise of "protection." That's cowardly.
There are stories everywhere about someone shooting a gun in the air at a party in celebration, only to cause a panic, leading others to pull their guns out and inevitably cause tragedies.
So since these stories are everywhere, you won't have a problem naming just one, right? share
Um, ya, have never, ever heard of that happening. Sounds like that urban legend about firing your gun into the air and the bullet will come down and kill someone, also proven false on Mythbusters.
Pulling their gun out and shooting it into the air, this guys been watching too many old western movies, lol.
Sounds like that urban legend about firing your gun into the air and the bullet will come down and kill someone, also proven false on Mythbusters.
What? I never saw that episode, but I know for a fact(its simple math really) that a bullet falling at terminal velocity CAN and HAS killed people.
Oh look, I found the conclusion for that very episode;
In the case of a bullet fired at a precisely vertical angle (something extremely difficult for a human being to duplicate), the bullet would tumble, lose its spin, and fall at a much slower speed due to terminal velocity and is therefore rendered less than lethal on impact. However, if a bullet is fired upward at a non-vertical angle (a far more probable possibility), it will maintain its spin and will reach a high enough speed to be lethal on impact. Because of this potentiality, firing a gun into the air is illegal in most states, and even in the states that it is legal, it is not recommended by the police. Also the MythBusters were able to identify two people who had been injured by falling bullets, one of them fatally injured. To date, this is the only myth to receive all three ratings at the same time.
Let's keep our facts straight, or at the very least our citations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebratory_gunfire#Notable_incidents
Notable incidents
Middle East
April 6, 2014: A 20-year old pregnant mother of two, Wadia Baidawi, was struck in the head and killed by a stray bullet from her neighbor’s wedding in Sidon, Lebanon.[14]
November 21, 2012: Following a cease-fire ending fighting with Israel, celebratory gunfire in the Gaza Strip killed a man and wounded three others.[15]
October 30, 2012: Twenty-three people were electrocuted after celebratory gunfire brought down a power cable during a wedding party in eastern Saudi Arabia.[16]
August 2012: A Kuwaiti bridegroom was killed when a friend of his accidentally shot him as he charged his gun to fire into the air in celebration.[17]
August 2010: 2 people were killed and 13 were injured in Jordan, as part of the yearly celebration of the announcement of the result of Tawjihi.[18]
July 29, 2007: At least four people were reported killed and 17 others wounded by celebratory gunfire in the capital city of Baghdad, Iraq, following the victory of the national football team in the AFC Asian Cup.[19][20] Celebratory gunfire occurred despite warnings issued by Iraqi security forces and the country's leading *beep* cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, who forbade the gunfire with a religious fatwā.[21]
July 22, 2003: More than 20 people were reported killed in Iraq from celebratory gunfire following the deaths of Saddam Hussein's sons Uday and Qusay in 2003.[13]
United States
July 4, 2013: A 7-year old boy, Brendon Mackey, was struck in the top of his head and killed while walking with his father shortly before 9 p.m. amid a large crowd prior to the fireworks display over the Swift Creek Reservoir.[22]
July 4, 2012: A 34-year woman, Michelle Packard, was struck in the head and killed while watching the fireworks with her family. The police believe the shot could have come from a mile away.[23]
January 1, 2010: A four-year-old boy, Marquel Peters, was struck by a bullet and killed inside his church The Church of God of Prophecy in Decatur, GA. It is presumed the bullet may have penetrated the roof of the church around 12:20AM.[24]
December 28, 2005: A 23-year-old U.S. Army private on leave after basic training fired a 9mm pistol into the air in celebration with friends, according to police, and one of the bullets came through a fifth-floor apartment window in the New York City borough of Queens, striking a 28-year-old mother of two in the eye. Her husband found her lifeless body moments later. The shooter had been drinking the night before and turned himself in to police the next morning when he heard the news. He was charged with second-degree manslaughter and weapons-related crimes,[25][26] and was later found guilty and sentenced to four to 12 years in prison.[27]
June 14, 1999: Arizona, A fourteen year-old girl, Shannon Smith, was struck on the top of her head by a bullet and killed while in the backyard of her home.[28] This incident resulted in Arizona enacting "Shannon's Law" in 2000, that made the discharge of a firearm into the air illegal[29]
December 31, 1994: Amy Silberman, a tourist from Boston, was killed by a falling bullet from celebratory firing while walking on the Riverwalk in the French Quarter of New Orleans, Louisiana. The Police Department there has been striving to educate the public on the danger since then, frequently making arrests for firing into the air.[30]
South Asia
February 25, 2007: Five people were killed by stray bullets fired at a kite festival in Lahore, Pakistan, including a six-year-old schoolboy who was struck in the head near his home in the city's Mazang area.[31]
December 1859: An autopsy showed that a native servant in India, who suddenly fell dead for no apparent reason, was mortally wounded from a bullet fired from a distance too far for the shot to be heard. The falling bullet had sufficient energy to pass through the victim's shoulder, a rib, a lung, his heart and his diaphragm.[32]
June 6, 2013: a 42 year old Pakistani woman was hit by a stray bullet from celebratory gunfire. The gunfire was allegedly in celebration for the election of Pakistan's prime minister Newaz Sharif. Her 19 year old niece was also hit, and rushed to hospital in critical condition.[33]
Europe
January 1, 2005: A stray bullet hit a young girl during New Year celebrations in the central square of downtown Skopje, Macedonia. She died two days later. This incident led to the 2006 IANSA awareness campaign in that country.[2]
South America
December 25, 2012: A stray bullet killed a three-year-old girl in Asunción, Paraguay.[34]
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/aug/24/how-dangerous-is-celebrat ory-gunfire
For those hit by falling bullets, the chance of the wound being fatal was far higher than a typical shooting. The hospital put deaths from regular shootings between 2% and 6%, while for those struck by falling bullets the death rate was close to one third.
The reason was simple – those unlucky enough to be hit by falling shells were more likely to be struck on the head, and while the bullets were travelling slower after being shot into the sky, they were still capable of smashing skulls.
According to the doctors, a spent bullet falls back to Earth with a speed of between 90 and 180 metres per second. A bullet travelling at less than 60 metres per second can cause a fatal skull injury, they added.
On a side note, MythBusters really isn't a good source. They rarely follow the scientific method. Science should be about substance, not spectacle. Way too often they abandon the tests and just blow something up. Thats why I dont watch it anymore. share
So since these stories are everywhere, you won't have a problem naming just one, right?
I can't find a single one. There are plenty of people who were killed by bullets fired into the air, but no stories of celebratory fire causing a panic, let alone one that escalated into a firefight. share