i know its just a movie, but in real life I would NEVER want to get involved with a woman like that (as hot as tomei is), to have a creepy son like that in the picture. the way he would just stand there and stare at john c reilly's character was DISTURBING. Dollars to donughts in real life he would eventually hack him up in his sleep.
shareI would not either, but in the context of the movie, JCR doesn't know how off his rocker the kid is until he is in love.
I think this movie is really ballsy in a lot of ways. i said in another post it was subversive and it really is socially subversive. Just like Step Brothers was. But in SB, the subversive theme was eclipsed by the slap-stick humor and the expectations everyone brought into the theater along with Will Ferrell's rep.
Yeah, really subversive, as if this wasn't a dime a dozen story, and portrayed here with no explanation about the transformation - oh he couldn't see his mom sad, so he sees the error of his ways - will not happen like that.
What a waste.
And of course I would run, too - a fat, lazy son and the mother drooling over him - yikes, I don't know who is the bigger psycho...
Not true. TRUST me, there are plenty of guys who meet women whose intentions are great, but they've been single for a long time because of their children. It becomes symbiotic...parents need the children and children need the parents. I've seen it...and while I'm not old enough to have dated a woman with a live in 21 year old son, I've seen elements of this with an ex (who's sane and has her own semblance of a life) and her school-age children. Kids are wild cards...sometimes they are accepting, sometimes no one is ever good enough to be with their parent. ESPECIALLY if they've seen the divorce or separation of their parents...there's so many emotions with all that.
That all said...I think the ending was a copout. I actually enjoyed how out there the movie was, even as I kinda saw where it was going (lots of foreshadowing with the writing). BUT...having him suddenly see his mom happy. Has she NEVER met someone that he didn't come between? What was so epiphanic about this instance? There wasn't enough explanation...we don't even know the backstory between mom and son. So yeah...some things lacking in THAT sense...but I still enjoyed the film.
I agree completely with your last sentence. I have sort of been in John's character's shoes a few times. John did leave her after the wedding fiasco. Its brutal trying to date attractive single women in their forties, there's almost always a "Cyrus" attatched. But you are right, these scenarois rarely end well.
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I'm 50 and I've dated two women in the last year with baggage like Cyrus. One woman was my age, a tall beautiful former model and a physician. She had a 25 year old son who lived with her. It's been just the two of them since he was 1. She said she didn't date for about 14 years while he was growing up. He has no job or education, but he does dream of being an actor someday. If he can get off the couch.
The other woman was 40 with a 14 year old son who used to call every 15 minutes. She adjusted her work schedule so she was always home before he got home from school. No relationship for her for about 10 years.
It's always a big red flag when attractive women over 40 have been alone for a long time.
Man, it sounds like you and I have had some similar experiences. From my experience, women like this do have flings, but are not open to, or capable of having real relationships. This becomes appperant quickly.
The sad thing is that the "Cyrus" situation rarely gest worked out like it did in this film. More often than not, in my experience, its the mother's fault for being the constant enabler for years, and creating a young person with no coping skills for living in the outside world.
Perhaps thats one thing thats unrealistic about this film, that the Marisa Tomei character was OK with moving Cyrus out. From my experience, the mother is the biggest obstacle.
Your last sentence speaks alot of truth (I would include attractive women over 35), although the red flag can be a quite variety of things, some of which are a bit sorted, so I won't go there.
I saw an interesting statistic last December. It stated that 17% of 25 year-olds were still living with their parents, and that it was a 60-year high (it might as well be stated as an all time high). Its obviously partly due to the bad economy, but I think there's something else going on in America. When I turned 18, it was "out the door", go to college, join the Army, or get a job and support yourself, see you at Thanksgiving.
The dependent kid wouldn't bother me, where they crossed the line was with the open doors and them being naked in front of each other. Way too creepy. But John was also pretty creepy, so he and Molly are probably well suited to each other, as are he and Molly's kid.
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