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You're doing this all wrong

posted 15 years ago by nhogate
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1. John Wayne and Gail Russell were both in their 20's when they made this
1947 classic. Its about two young people not two middle aged people.

2. John Wayne was the equivelant (at the time) to present day Cam
Gigandit, Channing Tatum or even that kid from Twilight not Lou Diamond.

3. The female lead was very, young sweet and gorgeous . Gail Russell
was barely in her 20's when she did it. Todays equivelant would be even younger
like the girl from Twilight, Camilla Belle, Odette Yustman or even the
girl from the Superman show (if you must have a Canadian)Kristin Kruek.

4.You are going to loose all the youth sweetness, awkardness and innocence that
made the love story special with these two older actors.

5. You dont have to use older actors in this to appeal to the the older crowd
as a matter of fact I think you are ruining the story this way and any
older people that remember the original are not going to like it.
This is a love story about two young people. One wild and an outlaw
and one sweet and gorgeous but very religious and innocently set in her beliefs.

6.You are going to loose all the power of the original movie the way you are doing this remake.

[–] nhogate 15 years ago

OH I know , I know, PAUL WALKER. Paul Walker and Megan Fox
would have been perfect for this. See? If you were trying to
do this classic western romance RIGHT, thats whos NOW
comparable to John Wayne and Gail Russell of 1947.

[–] nhogate 15 years ago

Basically you are making the same mistake, Appaloosa and Austrailia
did. You're putting an old blonde pastey overpaid (UNATTRACTIVE)
actress in a role where she doesnt belong. The American audience
DOES NOT want to see these women any more. They are not attractive
or very good actresses but you people keep shoving them down our
throats and you keep loosing at that box office. Well, maybe when
you all go bankrupt and Will Smith is totally running Hollywood
you will start to listen.

[–] DarcyBrandon 15 years ago

Oh I know! I think it would look really cute with someone like Robert Pattinson in the lead. I think he can play the whole strong, dangrous type.

And I think Kristen Kruek can play the whole innocent girl type. Doesn't she do that alot?

Why can't they even get some talented unknown actors? That could work out.

[–] nhogate 15 years ago

Im not sure about Robert Pattison, although he's definitely tall enough. John Wayne was so....much taller than Gayle Russel and it worked perfect. He looked huge compared to her so it was so cute when she bossed him around all over the place. Kriten Kruek though would be WONDERFUL. I like her for this part. Even better than Meagan.

I think the man does have to be a little seasoned though. Like Mathew McCoughey (spelling, sorry) or Paul Walker or Brad Pitt or one of my favorites, Viggo Mortenson. But I don't know, come to think of it you might be right about about Pattinson. Let me think about it. I just never thought of him.

Its just that part of the attractiveness of this couple was that they were such opposites. He was a Bandit she was a quacker. He was huge she was little, he was rough she was gentle etc etc. AND SHE WAS DEFINITELY YOUNG LIKE KRISTEN KRUEK. I like her.

[–] DarcyBrandon 15 years ago

Thanks Nhogate! I think that Kristen Kruek is really talented but she's dying on Smallville. I mean, did you see what they did to her character there? And I loved the dynamic between John Wayne and Gayle Russel in the movie and I can see Kristen Kruek play a strong character who is still sweet and gentle.

What do you think about Henry Cavill from The Tudors? He can brood like no one's business and project a dangerous vibe.

[–] nhogate 15 years ago

OMG. How did you think of him? He is so perfect. Besides the lead, he was my favorite male in the Tudors. He is gorgeous and....he's tall. Well, tall enough.
You know, this fantasizing is probably futile because it looks like they're making it already.

I just really get sick of Hollywood obviously not understanding what really
WORKED for old hit movies. Its like they just know that it was a hit so Ok
"lets remake it". But it's like they have no idea why or what made it that way
and.....they don't seem to care. Which means THIS will just be another disaster
remake. Too bad. I really loved the original.

[–] DarcyBrandon 15 years ago

Well when the big smelly mess that the re-make is going to be starts getting air time, all us true Angel and the Badman fans can still watch the original.

Although, I think I will day dream about our ideal casting. LOL

[–] nutsberryfarm 15 years ago

lou diamond phillips+ luke perry= danger overload

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"Rue the day?" Who talks like that?

[–] CGMCC 15 years ago

"1. John Wayne and Gail Russell were both in their 20's when they made this
1947 classic. Its about two young people not two middle aged people.

2. John Wayne was the equivelant (at the time) to present day Cam
Gigandit, Channing Tatum or even that kid from Twilight not Lou Diamond.

3. The female lead was very, young sweet and gorgeous . Gail Russell
was barely in her 20's when she did it."

Let me comment on the statements made by nhogate above:

John Wayne was 40 when this film debuted. John Wayne was the equivilant of Lou Diamond Phillips, as both had acted in hits and so-so films at their respective points when they made Angel And The Badman. Gail Russell was 23 at the time.

Hallmark movies are usually excellently made with great acting. I will reserve judgement until I see this remake, but having John Wayne's grand-son as Quirt's partner bodes well for this film!

And how can the User Commenter rate this a 1? It has not aired yet! First time on TV will be July 5th.

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[–] lakealice 15 years ago

The lead actress looks too old for the part, and has a beautiful, but hardened face. Her wig is atrocious! No woman of her age would have worn those Shirley Temple curls hanging in her eyes and schoolgirl long hair in that period--women wore their hair up.

[–] sjm519 8 years ago

Nhogate John Wayne was already 40 years old when he made this film not his 20's.