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Hypothetical Discussion: Your Vision On 'The Levels'


Hello everybody!


After about six months since I saw the series finale, I am still a little confused about “The Levels.” We know from Madame Director that Joe had the potential to reach Level 10; something that hasn’t been accomplished by anyone in more than a decade.

At this point, we have seen Levels 1 and 2; a town surrounded by an enigmatic fence and a large freighter with an entire hotel built in, respectfully. So that leaves quite a few (8!) levels to explore for the writers -- if this series will be picked up again.

Since Madame Director said, ”Reaching Level 10 hasn’t been accomplished in more than a decade,” and, ”It requires great potential,” we can assume that with each progression, the recruit's challenge to prove their worth/dedication to the Program becomes more physically and psychologically demanding. Also, the setting where the experiment is conducted would drastically change from Level-to-Level(Town --> Freighter --> ......).

Hypothetical: If you were the lead-writer, how would you envision the remaining Levels and their challenges? (* Let’s say, you have signed a deal with the network for 5 years. Plenty of time, no need to squeeze you visions into 13 episodes)

Looking forward to what you make of these “Levels.”


Take care,
Luke


"The truth is we are all perfect. God loves you, just as you are." Dr. Gaius Baltar

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i hope they do continue.

the levels would have been amazing.

Maybe a level could have been in a plane or underground...

~~*AIM*~~KEIRAHOLICNº14
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Kitteymagic, I second that!


Let’s hope they do get picked-up again by the network. May be wishful thinking, of course, but I would really like to see where they would take this “Levels-concept.” To me, it seems like they have just thrown it out there without actually having envisioned all 10 Levels. Do you agree?

You mentioned a Level taking place in a plane; I could see that happening. Still, that levels another 7 Levels. As a writer, how would you go on and maintain credibility at the same time? This seemingly highly secretive organization surely can’t remain hidden for long if they have planes, boats, and towns all over the world.

It would seriously rock if they returned; if only to see where they’d take such concepts.


Take care,
Luke


"The truth is we are all perfect. God loves you, just as you are." Dr. Gaius Baltar

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Well the writers probaly thought to make the 1st season the bestas the could and worry about the rest of the seasons if it gets picked up.

i have no idea how this company hasnt been found out yet especially by a president (or maybe their in on it?)

please make a second season!!

~~*AIM*~~KEIRAHOLICNº14
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” Well the writers probaly thought to make the 1st season the bestas the could and worry about the rest of the seasons if it gets picked up.

i have no idea how this company hasnt been found out yet especially by a president (or maybe their in on it?)”

You may be right, and the writers could have just focused on making a kick-ass first season. Not the smartest method of writing, tough. Or at least, a very risky one. They had no assurance -- whatsoever -- of being allowed to make subsequent seasons, so why did they fire all these mysteries at us, shotgun-style, and answer so little?

At some point, likely early in, or prior to production, they knew ”Persons Unknown” would become a mini-series. If I knew this, I would try to avoid mentioning -- or developing -- certain aspects of the mythology.

We now know there are ten (10!) Levels, and each one gets more challenging. If I felt unsure about being picked-up again, I would avoid stating the number of Levels.

Also, I wouldn’t have made The Program so massive -- with cameras everywhere, even in highly improbable places -- and I would have made their motivations clear.

If you are granted subsequent seasons, you’ve got plenty of room for expansion on the mythology. What do you think?


Take care,
Luke


"The truth is we are all perfect. God loves you, just as you are." Dr. Gaius Baltar

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if the make another season im sure the writers would expand on everything.

it was a bit rediculous how there was cameras everywhere even in the desert.
they must be very powerful then.

have you heard any info for season 2?

~~*AIM*~~KEIRAHOLICNº14
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” if the make another season im sure the writers would expand on everything.”

To fill the second season with spectacle, they wouldn’t really need to expand. They have plenty to work with, already. I would say, depending on the length of the second season, just run with a couple more Levels, still eight more left to explore; delve a little deeper into the Program’s motivations/goals, still a bit sketchy to me; and explore the characters’ progression in both games.

”have you heard any info for season 2?”

Sadly, I haven’t. If you scour the internet for new info, you mostly stumble upon Facebook pages of people who are -- just like you and me -- craving for a second season.


Take care,
Luke


"The truth is we are all perfect. God loves you, just as you are." Dr. Gaius Baltar

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okay. thanks for the info.

i really was hoping this would turn into the new 'lost'.
it has the potential.

~~*AIM*~~KEIRAHOLICNº14
Last Films:Hall Pass6/10,Battle:LA9/10,Adjustment Bureau6/10

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Hello kitteymagic!


”i really was hoping this would turn into the new 'lost'.
it has the potential.”

Yeah, but still they were vastly different. Somehow I doubt that ”Persons Unknown” would amass the same massive amount of fans, but still, I could see it become a success with a dedicated fan base. I agree, this series had great potential, also an incredible tempo when it comes to storytelling.


Take care,
Luke


"The truth is we are all perfect. God loves you, just as you are." Dr. Gaius Baltar

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President don't know everything in the USA.. Even FBI can act on their own and have secrets from the president.

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Interesting discussion! It would be interesting to see the other levels, but we'd have to consider the overall theme the levels are trying to portray. I think the theme is the obvious lack of control with the illusion of freedom. So keeping this in mind, I can see the levels like this:

Level 1-The town.

As seen on tv.


Level 2-The ship.

As seen on tv.


Level 3-The cargo plane.

Maybe the participants would try to stow themselves in the cargo boxes, then get loaded onto a plane that takes off and lands on the freighter? Thinking they've escaped, the participants could be disappointed to learn they're stuck on a plane with no way of getting to the cockpit. So they'd have to wait and see where it lands. In the mean time they have to keep from going crazy. I can see how weapons (and or) life supports would be left in each person's box. Therefore it's kill if you have a weapon so that you can get a life support (like the gas mask scenario) or be killed if you're one of the few without a weapon but with a life jacket.


Level 4- The Desert.

So the participants on the plane finally land (or crash). They think they're supposed to be over water. So those with vests think they're saved, while those with weapons panic. Then when they walk out, they'll find themselves in the desert.

They wont be able to go far, so they'll be stuck at the plane's wreckage site. Those with vests and those with weapons can realize what a mind game it all was, and could start to take shelter on the plane. When scouting the cockpit, they don't find any pilots or bodies, just a computer that's been flying the plane all along.

The participants would argue between leaving the site and looking for help, or staying, opening the cargo boxes and finding a way to survive.



Level 5- The Maze.

After letting them bake in the wreckage for a couple of months, the program can send a van/bus to pick them up. Of course it can be driven by a paid local who doesn't speak English. He can take them to a slum town (not the pretty one like they had in level one), which can be constructed like a maze. Except there's people here, but unfortunately nobody speaks English. In fact, the language spoken, is unlike any the participants have ever heard.

When the participants stock up on supplies and try to leave the town, they follow the dirt roads that only seem to intersect along the buildings. Trapping them in a maze like slum.


Level 6- The Gas station.

I think here the participants would try to find the highest points of elevation and find a way out of the slum city. But they can no longer see the desert, it's just a maze of slum everywhere they look. To add fire to the timer, they'd have to figure a way out very fast because a team of mercenaries (guys in blue) is after them.

Eventually, Blackham or whoever had the right supplies from the cargo plane could use some C4 to blast their way out of the city's maze onto a roadway. Once out of the city, they could wander the desert road to an abandoned Gas station.

The station has no gas, but it has a car which needs fixing. The participants could try and fix it, while getting their minds tested within the actual station.


Level 7- The Hospital.

Once they fix the car and take off, the darn thing can fall apart before it takes them anywhere. Angry, they can end up back at the gas station and bicker until the heat stroke gets to them.

Once they pass out they can wake up in a hospital. Janet, especially, can think she's back in the program run hospital. But she'll quickly realize this is no ordinary hospital (it's the place where Joe was reprogrammed) A fresh nurse uniform is at her bedside and a card saying welcome to level 7 can have a key inside.

Each participant will be on a different floor of the hospital. So Janet's a nurse and she'll have to try and free dying participants (from other groups) while they're connected to two IV's, one filled with poison and one filled with medication. She has the power to speed up their deaths but if she tries to free them, the medication will drip slower, prolonging their pain and eventual death.

The other floors can each have different specialties where each participant is put into a different position and is tested. So Blackham can be a janitor, who's got to search through bloody clothes in order to find a key out. Moira, could be in the psych ward where the patients are trying to kill her. McNair can be stuck in a security booth, maybe he can guide his friends to safety? While trying to stay alive in his own level.



Level 8- The Library.

When they all get out of their hospital floors and meet up in the main level, they can lock themselves in a library. Unable to get out, because the crazed patients are on the other side, they can each swap what they've learned about the program, from the hospital.

Then, they'll try and get out of the library by going through the vent system, or trying to leave some other way. In the meantime, the library has rows of books dedicated to each participant. These books can reveal things about them, or give suggestions for getting out faster.

Of course the library has archiving rooms, binderies, preservation houses, all places where participants can get trapped, tested or driven insane.



Level 9- The school.

Oh the horror!

When they eventually get out of the library (by way of escape or drugging) they can be positioned in a school. They need to either pass certain "Classes", or they'll use tools from the gym, science lab, etc to get out.



Level 10- The Capitol.

This is the sleeper agent level. Using all the skills they've acquired through training, the participants will be positioned within government and will be asked to either assassinate important people, or sway the government to favor the program.

Or an even bigger mind game would be if everyone in government acted like the participant was the president. Each participant was given power and was asked to make some tough calls in regards to the other participants?




Of course I left out Joe and Renbe, because that one level would need it's own direction/plan. But I'd imagine that somewhere in level five, he and Renbe would put the clues together faster and eventually catch up to Janet and crew.

Also, I think somewhere in this process one of the participants (if not more) can be deemed passable and will enter a "hotel manager" training camp.

I'm pretty sure the writers had no idea what they were doing with future levels, and that is a shame.

But writing this was really fun. Let me know what you guys think!



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wow, a lot of effort, which i love.

i like all your ideas. i think there all very unique and will make for good seasons....

i really wanted a level to be underground.

~~*AIM*~~KEIRAHOLICNº14
Last Films:Hall Pass6/10,Battle:LA9/10,Adjustment Bureau6/10

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Hey, glad you liked them

An underground level would be interesting. How would you set that up, if you were head writer?

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i wouldnt have any idea. lol.

maybe if they pass another level they just knock em out with drugs and place them underground...they might have to find away to get out of a cage...

~~*AIM*~~KEIRAHOLICNº14
Last Films:Hall Pass6/10,Battle:LA9/10,Adjustment Bureau6/10

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Holy smokes, Matrixfan!!


You have actually done it; moreover, you vision of “the Levels” could surely work. There is a great sense of progression in them. My personal favorite: Level 9!! Haha Utter horror, that level.

I agree with you, the writers likely didn’t have a good sense of what each Level should look like. If they had been granted a second season, they would still have time to develop the various Levels, though. And who knows? Maybe one of your Levels was amongst their concepts, or would have become one of theirs.


Take care,
Luke


"The truth is we are all perfect. God loves you, just as you are." Dr. Gaius Baltar

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Hey,

Glad you like my levels! Yes, level 9 is pretty menacing

It would've been interesting to sit in their writers room meetings, I bet they would've generated some interesting storylines and heck if mine was among them then that'd be all the sweeter! I just hope some network would take a chance and air a show that's not a cookie cutter "dead body crime show" or "laugh track sitcom". Seeing a show like Person's Unknown has restored my faith in the fact that there are still some imaginative minds out there in Hollywood, even if they do lack direction.

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There seems to be more creativity and thought put into this single post than the writers put into an entire season of this show. I wish PU had shown potential to be anything near that interesting, but honestly I'm sure they were just stumbling around. They barely had enough material for a mini-series, though that would have required a fairly concrete ending.

Frustrating like LOST but boring without the high production value or decent acting. Also minus the revealing, poignant flashbacks. This kind of social experiment/forced survival thing works better in books and feature film franchises, a la The Hunger Games, Divergent or the upcoming Maze Runner series.

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unlike a lot of people here, I don't think all the levels are the same. Even in level 1 the corporation was testing people to do their bidding. Obviously if Joe could reach level 10 he isn't there yet. and since Joe is in the town as a double agent, I think that is a level. his friend the waiter seems to be a lower level. so it could be level 1 is the town, 2 is the freighter but it tests their loyalty in a new way, weeding out week ones. 3 or 4 test your devotion further. 5 could the bellhop, 6 is the waiter who tests them from the control room. 6 is undercover like joe. 10 could be the senator. adittionally, i think there are higher levels, just because joe had potential to be a level 10 doesnt mean 10 is the end.

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True, but even that doesn't mean that all participants receive the same level 1. Renbe's stress events may be different than the ones Janet went through. They've had 50 years to set this up and obviously have multiple towns. I even started to wonder if it was something that was supposed to have a set start and end date, but became a self perpetuating program. The director has only been there 30 years. Maybe they all do it because nobody still alive that knows what's going on...except maybe the guy with the long white hair. Even him though, not sure.

Also, how is Tori the night manager she was taken out of the scenario midway through 1? She was correct in her assumption that daddy was in on it. I thought Janet's mother had had her taken so she could have a do-over in being a good mom after her interview with Renbe.

Good thoughts on the higher levels. Wonder just how far Liam was demoted when he was sent to be the hotel manager? and how will Joe ever reach 10 if they keep dropping him back into towns? How will Renbe knowing Joe affect the potential of the new candidates?hmm


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Reminds me of Hunger Games crossed with Lost and others. Totally underrated - more people should know about this show who like this kind of psychological drama.
SPOILER:
Not everyone should have been on Level 2 in that last episode. However - the husband, the ambassador - where was the husband's boss-lady-gf? Didn't see her there. Or, the FBI guy who figured it out right at the end?
It's better than Lost because it left on that note of painful longing instead of hokey Wizard of Oz-ism. But, more could be and should be done with this series.
AMC should pick it up after Breaking Bad ends.

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I might be very late with this... But this is exactly what I thought. I posted it below in this thread before I spotted this post.

I thought Joe's level would be something more like Level 5. For some reason, I think any level above 5 would be too much for my own mind to comprehend. lol

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After watching the show, I always thought that Level 3, 4, or even 5 would have been something on the lines of what Joe was doing in The Town; directing the Level 1 participates in The Town. Since the Madame Director said Joe had potential to reach Level 10, I figured him working The Town and Level 1 participates was a level itself. It would make some sense since there is more than one town all over the globe; meaning more than participate like Joe in them.

I think this type of level would be well suited for 4 or 5. Mostly because it would be a group thing where you're the mole so to speak. I would imagine that the levels after 5 would be far more complex to the mind and the participates' dedication to finishing than what I could ever come up with.

For this level, who knows how many times you gotta go through the same thing over and over again with each different set of participates. That would drive me crazy.

The only thing I can see that would either be a plot hole or make my theory wrong is Tori becoming The Manager of (one of at least) The Town practically overnight and with some potentially serious brainwashing.

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